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    A few of you were asking what the difference was with some of the various eReaders out there. I know first hand how deciding on one can be a bit of a daunting task. Amazon has four different ones, and that's just from one company! I'll try to explain the pros/cons of each and I'll list info/specs on them as well.

    Let me start off by saying that I own an Amazon Kindle Keyboard Wifi. I'll also be buying a new Amazon Kindle Touch when it comes out, as well as the Kindle Fire. I do not own any Barnes & Noble products, but I have read a lot about them and I have played with them as well. I chose the Amazon products simply because they are the right ones for me.

    Let's start with the Amazon line-up:

    Kindle 4th generation $79 with "Special Offers" (explained below) $109 without.
    This Kindle is Amazon's entry level eReader. Kind of like the Kahr CM9. This entry level only has wifi, there's no 3G. This means that if you want to sync books from your Amazon account to your Kindle you'll have to be connected to a wifi network. They've also removed the keyboard from the previous generation Kindle. I think that this was a good move. I personally never used the keyboard anyway. It only got in the way when I was holding it. The battery lasts just as long as it did in the previous Kindle, one month. That's right, the battery lasts a really long time. I read heavily, and my Kindle's battery last me about 3 1/2 weeks. That's pretty amazing in this day age where we have to plug in our smart phones at least once a day. The way you turn pages is by pressing small buttons along the side of the device. It's really an easy and natural thing to do. You don't have to stretch your fingers at all. One can also use the Kindle to play audio books. I haven't ever used this feature, so I cannot attest to how well it works. You can also use it to play music like a big iPod. I haven't used this feature either. This thing is light as well. It's quite a bit lighter than the previous model. On the previous model my smaller hands have no problem holding the Kindle for a few hours at a time. My arms don't get tired, and my fingers don't cramp at all. It's less than 6 ounces. Amazon says that it is 30% lighter than the previous Kindle. It's got a 6" E Ink screen. These screens really do look just like paper in a book. You have to see it to believe it, it's nuts. You can also enlarge the text in your books in case your eyes are shot. (Probably like Bawanna's)

    Amazon also just teamed up with over 11,000 libraries in the US. What that means is that you can rent books from your library and put them on your Kindle. All from the comfort of your computer at home. All you need is a library card from your local library. I think it's a really cool feature.

    Now let me tell you about Amazon's "Special Offers" option. "Special Offers" is what Amazon calls ads. You can order the new Kindle for $30 cheaper if you opt for the special offers option, but then you'll have ads popping up on your screen once in a while. You'll have to decide if this is a problem for you. Me? I don't want the ads. I can't stand commercials on TV telling me to buy crap that I don't want, so why would I want them to interrupt the book I'm reading? I'll gladly pony up the extra $30 to have an ad free Kindle.

    Kindle Touch WiFi-$99 With "Special Offers" $109 without. 3G-$149 With "Special Offers" $189 without

    The Kindle Touch differs from the entry level Kindle in that it has a touch screen. This is the PM9 version. Instead of pressing a button to turn pages, you simply tap the screen or swipe from right to left. They say the battery in this model lasts two months. I find that a bit hard to believe, but I won't know until I get it. This model won't be released until November 21st.

    The Kindle Touch comes in two variants, WiFi and 3G+WiFi. The WiFi only one needs to be connected to a WiFi network to sync with your Amazon account, just like the above mentioned Kindle. The 3G version can sync almost anywhere using a 3G signal from Sprint, or a WiFi network. For the 3G version there is NO monthly fee or contract for the 3G. It comes included in the higher price. Let me say again, there is NO contract. You don't sign anything.

    The Kindle Touch is fairly similar to the other Kindle with the exception of the touch screen. You'll have to decide if the touch screen is worth the extra money for you. For me? Yes it is. I'm the same way when I get a new gadget as when I get a new gun. We sit together on the couch and hang out for days on end. So yeah, I want the "cooler" touch screen model.

    Let me point something out here that I just noticed. The Kindle without "Special Offers" is $10 MORE than the Kindle Touch Wifi with "Special Offers". Something to think about.

    Kindle Fire $199

    This, in my opinion, is not an eReader. This is a tablet, kind of like a less expensive iPad. You can watch movies and TV on it. You can surf the web and play games on it. The screen on the Fire is not ideal for reading books. It's got the same type of screen found on the iPad 2. If you read on it for long periods of time you risk eye fatigue. It's also a lot heavier than the other Kindles. It's almost twice the weight as the Kindle Touch. Your arms and fingers might get tired after holding this thing for an hour. The battery also only lasts for up to eight hours, and that's only reading. Try watching TV or movies and Amazon says that it'll last 7.5 hours.

    You may be thinking that I don't like the Fire. I do like it. I'm getting one from my girlfriend for Christmas. This thing is gonna be awesome for watching TV and movies on. The screen should be nice and crisp. However, I won't be reading books on it. I'll be getting a Kindle Touch WiFi for that.

    If you're an Amazon Prime member you might not know about Amazon's best kept accidental secret. You can watch free TV and movies on your computer anytime you want. You're already paying for it with your Amazon Prime membership, so you may as well take advantage of it. With the Kindle Fire you'll be able to watch these shows and movies right there anytime you want.

    If you're in the market for an eReader and don't care about playing games or watching TV shows or movies on the device, then I wouldn't even look at the Fire. The extra money isn't worth it in my opinion.

    Old Kindle generation 3

    I really see no reason to buy one of these anymore. If you simply must have a physical keyboard, then you're stuck with this one. Other than that, there's no pluses. The screens are not as nice, they're heavier and bigger. Just ask yourself if you really need a physical keyboard.

    Barnes and Noble

    Now I'll talk to you about the Nook and Nook Color. Barnes and Noble also has the deal with libraries around the country for you to rent books.

    Nook Color WiFi-$249
    Pretty much the same as the Kindle Fire in that it's less of an eReader and more of a TV/movie/gaming/internet device. I won't get too much into it because they're so similar. Yes, there are some differences, but this post is about eReaders, not tablets.

    Nook WiFi-$139
    The Nook is almost the same weight as the Kindle Touch. It's got the same size screen, and the battery supposedly lasts the same. After reading up on the Nook and comparing it to the Kindle Touch...they're the same damned thing device wise except that the Nook has no 3G option. The Nook is $20 more, but I expect that price to come down once the Kindle Touch is released. The main differences between the two devices are the bookstores and infrastructures. Barnes and Noble supposedly has more books available, but Amazon is adding thousands more everyday. If you go to Barnes & Noble a lot then you should seriously consider the Nook. You can use your Nook to read books for free while you're in the store and use it to get discounts in the cafe inside of the store.

    Wrap-Up
    It all boils down to personal preference. If you are already an Amazon user, you might want to look harder at the Kindles. If you also want to watch TV and movies as well as playing games, or especially if you're an Amazon Prime member, take a look at the Kindle Fire. Also, if you require 3G, then the Kindles are your only option. Take note, the Kindle Fire has no 3G model, only WiFi.

    If you're a Barnes & Noble person then take a look at the Nook or Nook Color.

    O.K., I'm ending this huge post now. I've been researching and typing for about two hours now. Everyone chime in, let's discuss these. I know that I missed some things, and for that I apologize. Please post up and tell me what I missed. If any of you have any questions please feel free to ask. This IS a forum after all, and that's the definition of the word.
    NRA "Life of Duty" Member

  • #2
    Why a Kindle Touch WiFi instead of a Kindle Touch 3G? 3G you can download anywhere. Wifi I gotta be in the right spot.

    Do I get a credit for one of the push button phones if I turn in my old rotary dial phone? Kind of hate to give it up, don't see em in the phone stores too much anymore.


    There's actually a gun shop up in Oak Harbor, couple hours away that has a rotary dial phone on the counter. It's owned by a couple and their mother works there. Nice old lady, probably in her 80's, still renting guns and racking slides. She won't give it up. It Works! She said they had to have one of them push button gadgets in the back since some places you had to have it to order stuff, guess it's the push 1 for english concept.

    Thanks beatlesfan for posting this, as you know (we've sent 26 PM's in the last 24 hours I'm kind of researching so it's really a big help to me and the missus. So far I'm still heavily into the Advil but we'll figure it out.
    http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

    RIP Muggsy & TMan

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    • #3
      What's funny is I worked in the central office in my city when push button (tone dial) dialing came in. They charged extra for it because they had to install extra equipment and those lines were routed to that. The older (pulse dial) was a relay setup that would clack with every number (i.e., 9 giving 9 clacks) then "chunk" to actually connect the call. Now everything is tone dial so I suppose they have to have a special "pulse dial" box that translates to tone.
      •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
      • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
        Why a Kindle Touch WiFi instead of a Kindle Touch 3G? 3G you can download anywhere. Wifi I gotta be in the right spot.

        Do I get a credit for one of the push button phones if I turn in my old rotary dial phone? Kind of hate to give it up, don't see em in the phone stores too much anymore.


        There's actually a gun shop up in Oak Harbor, couple hours away that has a rotary dial phone on the counter. It's owned by a couple and their mother works there. Nice old lady, probably in her 80's, still renting guns and racking slides. She won't give it up. It Works! She said they had to have one of them push button gadgets in the back since some places you had to have it to order stuff, guess it's the push 1 for english concept.

        Thanks beatlesfan for posting this, as you know (we've sent 26 PM's in the last 24 hours I'm kind of researching so it's really a big help to me and the missus. So far I'm still heavily into the Advil but we'll figure it out.
        I'm getting the WiFi version because it's cheaper and I don't pay for books so there's no need for me to sync with Amazon except for software updates. If I DO need to sync up for some reason, I can just WiFi tether the Kindle to my smartphone.

        Also, I don't know what you guys are rambling on about. Rotary phone? Was that what they used before the first iPhone?
        NRA "Life of Duty" Member

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        • #5
          I still have the first phone I bought after the Ma Bell monopoly was broken up back in the 70's?... a button-to-rotary flip phone (wired) from radio shack. I still use it for testing outlets and stuff... like the interface from the telephone pole to my house. It's yellow, too. I gave up those $5 a month EACH "Princess" pushbutton phones and started saving a bunch. I understand some people still have those things and have spent fortunes ofer the years!!

          Wynn
          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

          Thomas Jefferson said

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
          and

          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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          • #6
            A buddy of mine still has his old cell phone that's in a satchel type thing you carry on your shoulder. He said it got great reception lol.

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            • #7
              I had one of those in my construction days. It was like a large purse. Something Get Smart would have been proud of.
              http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
              In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
              Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
              Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
              Cue sound of Head slap.

              RIP Muggsy & TMan

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              • #8
                Need Input on Kindle Fire

                Now that my wife doesn't drive and needs me to help her to the bathroom, I spend hours waiting at her appointments. She has 2 apts a week most weeks that last over 4 hours. I have been taking a book but find I really don't want to sit there reading that long, so I bought a decent DVD Player. I noe find I also want to check the forums, surf, listen to music, etc.

                Today while wandering around Target I saw the Kindle Fire. The best part was a grandson aged young man walked me through it and I could even understand what he said. Since the hospital has WiFi I can do all sorts of things on it. By signing up for Kindle Prime I can stream movies and eBooks for free and place them in my cloud space on Amazon and go back to where I left off later - even on my PC at home.

                But I'm not the hip geek I used to be and need your input on this thing. Is it right for what I want to do? Is it a good device?

                Thanks..... Linc
                •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
                • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OldLincoln View Post
                  Now that my wife doesn't drive and needs me to help her to the bathroom, I spend hours waiting at her appointments. She has 2 apts a week most weeks that last over 4 hours. I have been taking a book but find I really don't want to sit there reading that long, so I bought a decent DVD Player. I noe find I also want to check the forums, surf, listen to music, etc.

                  Today while wandering around Target I saw the Kindle Fire. The best part was a grandson aged young man walked me through it and I could even understand what he said. Since the hospital has WiFi I can do all sorts of things on it. By signing up for Kindle Prime I can stream movies and eBooks for free and place them in my cloud space on Amazon and go back to where I left off later - even on my PC at home.

                  But I'm not the hip geek I used to be and need your input on this thing. Is it right for what I want to do? Is it a good device?

                  Thanks..... Linc
                  I think for what you want to use it for, the Kindle Fire would be perfect. I know you'll be very very happy with it. The build quality is really good on them to.

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                  • #10
                    I think so Old Lincoln. I got my wife one and she plays games with a bunch of people, reads books, etc. Does more than we know how to do but I'm challenged with anything that plugs in.

                    beatlesfan is the man on this stuff. I got the wife's old pandigital and he's helped me getting stuff on that. I'm still fighting how to get books he sent me out of the computer and into the pandigital but I'll get it some day.
                    http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                    Cue sound of Head slap.

                    RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                      I think so Old Lincoln. I got my wife one and she plays games with a bunch of people, reads books, etc. Does more than we know how to do but I'm challenged with anything that plugs in.

                      beatlesfan is the man on this stuff. I got the wife's old pandigital and he's helped me getting stuff on that. I'm still fighting how to get books he sent me out of the computer and into the pandigital but I'll get it some day.
                      I'm already on book number 9 bawanna, you better catch up lol.

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                      • #12
                        I just finished #1 only cause my wife paid. I'm still working on downloading the ones you sent me. Admittedly not very hard. I need to increase my effort.

                        Right now I got a German Sig stripped naked in the white and the sweats coming off me more than the old blue.

                        Sure hope this works..........................
                        http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                        In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                        Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                        Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                        Cue sound of Head slap.

                        RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                        • #13
                          What you got a German stripped neked and not a Sweede???? Shame on you, you naughty boy!
                          •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
                          • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                          • #14
                            I saw where I can join the cl8ub and get free streaming, but if I get a free book, does it stay on the reader so I can read it offline? I'm all excited about this now but I do need to be able to read in those places without wifi.
                            •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
                            • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                            • #15
                              I understand that they have some problems, but the one thing I didn't like was no memory card slot. You have to be dependent on the"Cloud". The leftover 2GB of storage isn't much.

                              I've read three books on my LG Thrive cellular phone. I downloaded the Kindle App for it and it's always with me so I can read or check email. It has 3G which is what I needed while in SW Colorado. I have the Go Phone, Pay As You Go plan... 10¢ a minute with the quarterly $25 plus tax which is automatically paid and rolls over my time. I buy data as needed and it comes off my balance. I still have a balance of over $200 and I must have spent $200 since I got this phone, but it's cheaper for me than $50 or more a month!

                              I've used the phone to call up emails with coupons to show at the store when I forgot to bring the printed ones.

                              I would have bought a Vizio Tablet, but those sold out before Christmas. I would rather have a 7 or 8-inch tablet with more room to use the danged onscreen keyboad. My tiny cell phone can really suck with much typing input.

                              My cell phone does almost everything and the price is low for me. It's fine for me to read books, but I've only read "free" ones so far... from Baen.com... science-fiction.

                              Wynn
                              USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                              Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                              Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                              Thomas Jefferson said

                              “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                              and

                              "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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