3 Guns Only

[ltxi]

...again, not counting wife's guns...

- 870 w/a Vang Comp barrel
- S&W 442
- S&W Model 13

- Custom 1911 Colt Officers ACP

- Beretta Minx .22 short
- PM9

- Ruger Super Single Six
- Ruger .357 old model Blackhawk
- Ruger 10/22
- Ruger Ranch Rifle in 7.62X39


- Restored Vietnam era Russian SKS....functional back-up for the Ruger when it all goes to hell

Ok....I cut it back to survival guns with the necessity for some redundancy and ammunition supply considered. Now I'm going to stop thinking about this because it's hurting my head and I've run on too long on the subject anyway.

[Ryder]

3 guns huh? well if we are talking about a strictly survival situation, it would be :

1. mossburg 500 12 gauge w/ smooth bore and rifled barrels
(small and medium sized game)

2. CW9 (self defense)

3. Browning Buckmard 22 (for small game)

Shoot, i am not even sure this is a fair question.lol.

[medezyner]

Ok, maybe the question wasn’t fair, but I deliberately didn’t want to say "why" because I thought it might raise some interesting reasoning. Mine was mainly survival because up here in NH we don’t get many natural bug-out disasters. Hurricanes...nope, tornados…very rare, earthquakes…nope, water shortages nope, zombie attacks…well we have had an influx of liberals crawling into the state. I liked some of the thought process so far, as painful as it might have been. Happy New Year Karh forum! It’s going to be an interesting one. Where the hell did I put my bourbon?

[ltxi]

Fsp

Storms.....don't forget the semi-catastrophic winter storms, like last year's, that come along about 1 1/2 per decade. Although, in the long run, the liberal infestation threat is probably the bigger problem.

Bourbon....I wish. We're doing wine tonight, along with live lobster and clams FedEx'ed in from Maine. Wife's still a hard core NE coastie.

[medezyner]

Storms.....don't forget the semi-catastrophic winter storms, like last year's, that come along about 1 1/2 per decade. Although, in the long run, the liberal infestation threat is probably the bigger problem.

Bourbon....I wish. We're doing wine tonight, along with live lobster and clams FedEx'ed in from Maine. Wife's still a hard core NE coastie.

Excellent, she's got good taste. AhYa, I'm looking at some chowda and a couple-ah 2 1/2 pounders. We took an equity loan for those babies! Cant do that too often. Where's my bib? Have a great New Year ltxi and enjoy the lobstah.

[zena]

What a horrible way to start the New Year! Can't do it. I know I'd have to keep my Saiga 12 gage with the 20 round mag. And the AR 15 because we do have zombies her in MA. But I can't commit to the 3rd gun because then I am foregoing all others. In other words, I am invoking a woman's perogative to keep changing her mind. My third gun will be a handgun....Kahr, Glock, STI......:4:

[mx5fan]

There's no way I can par my guns down to 3, no way, no how...just can't do it. I'm still working on building up my arsenal! To that end, I'm trying to figure out what the next procurement will be, so you see, my psyche will not even let me go down the path of firearms reduction. I have a yen for a rifle as I have none and we all know every girl should have at least one rifle. The Ruger Mini14 has caught my eye. I've also read good things about the Saiga 7.62X39...ah decisions, decisions.

[wyntrout]

Maybe I don't understand the topic... is that limiting yourself to carrying THREE guns at one time?? That seems reasonable... if I can still carry my knife, stun gun, and CS/pepper spray.
Wynn

[PaiN]

reasoning.....hmm
Here in CT I'm not overly worried about natural disaster, bug-out type situations. Its so damn densely populated nothing is too far of a walk. I'm not going to lost in the wilderness, unless by choice but then I would still have to get there.
Where my concerns lie in the bigger picture(outside typical personal/home/family protection) is in a "breakdown-in-rule-of-law" situation. How do I keep myself and family safe if all hell has broken loose and we either have to hunker down or more likely be mobile to a safe local..
One thing I didn't mention is along with my two guns, is a decent stock pile of ammo(but not insane amts) and plenty mags need to be on hand and ready to go.
As for the "other situation"....Authoritarian-takeover, freedom-grab...it is my opinion that this is the main reason for an arsenal building mentality.
In all honesty, if this situation was to occur, I don't care how many guns, ammo and knives a person has. If they decide to "fight it out"...they are as good as dead. There is noway armed citizens are going to duke it out with trained military and para-military on a planned mission. This kind of thinking is for the movies.

[wyntrout]

reasoning.....hmm
Here in CT I'm not overly worried about natural disaster, bug-out type situations. Its so damn densely populated nothing is too far of a walk. I'm not going to lost in the wilderness, unless by choice but then I would still have to get there.
Where my concerns lie in the bigger picture(outside typical personal/home/family protection) is in a "breakdown-in-rule-of-law" situation. How do I keep myself and family safe if all hell has broken loose and we either have to hunker down or more likely be mobile to a safe local..
One thing I didn't mention is along with my two guns, is a decent stock pile of ammo(but not insane amts) and plenty mags need to be on hand and ready to go.
As for the "other situation"....Authoritarian-takeover, freedom-grab...it is my opinion that this is the main reason for an arsenal building mentality.
In all honesty, if this situation was to occur, I don't care how many guns, ammo and knives a person has. If they decide to "fight it out"...they are as good as dead. There is noway armed citizens are going to duke it out with trained military and para-military on a planned mission. This kind of thinking is for the movies.

Maybe there are some cops, mostly admin and appointee types that might gleefully start gun confiscation programs, but at some point the military IS going to rebel at the outright unconstitutional practices being promulgated by the current regime. After all, they swore to UPHOLD the constitution and at some point that will cause great conflict, if not overall, then from the bottom up in the armed forces, which is composed of citizens like you and I. This won't be a Tiananmen Square-like bloodbath. Obama mentioned wanting to create a "national police force equal to the military"... for what?? Already, in the more liberal areas of the country, "they" are trying to maintain lists of "stuff" so that they can trace guns and gun ownership, circumventing the outright ban on such by federal law.
I am NOT a conspiracist, but I have listened to the things prezbo said as a candidate, unlike a lot of the sheeple who wanted "change". Change can come in many forms, not all are good. I haven't seen any good ones so far, but I have seen another liberal politician apologizing all over the world for our "failures" to roll over and join the herd at the United Nations and let them lead us. Obama just dropped all restrictions or limitations against Interpol operating in this country. Most of the UN wants to ban guns and confiscate them. There are too many idiots here who will give up any of our rights to have security and be taken care of.
There I go again.
I get carried away.
Wynn

[ltxi]

There's no way I can par my guns down to 3, no way, no how...just can't do it. I'm still working on building up my arsenal! To that end, I'm trying to figure out what the next procurement will be, so you see, my psyche will not even let me go down the path of firearms reduction. I have a yen for a rifle as I have none and we all know every girl should have at least one rifle. The Ruger Mini14 has caught my eye. I've also read good things about the Saiga 7.62X39...ah decisions, decisions.

The Mini 14 is an excellent rifle/carbine. Accurate enough (it's not a long range varmint gun) and dead stone reliable, as are most classic Rugers. I've owned, and sold, two but currently own the 7.62x39 version because I prefer that cartridge for "general" use. Also, I have a few more firearms in that caliber and none in .223 as well as enough ammunition in everything from mil surplus to quality US made to disturb my neighbor's lunch if my house ever caught fire. From what relatively little I know about Saigas, they're pretty decent, but not up to the quality (or price) of a Mini 30.

[ltxi]

....... There is noway armed citizens are going to duke it out with trained military and para-military on a planned mission.......

1776

Sorry, almost. Understand your point, but just couldn't help myself....an aging member of both.

[mx5fan]

The Mini 14 is an excellent rifle/carbine. Accurate enough (it's not a long range varmint gun) and dead stone reliable, as are most classic Rugers. I've owned, and sold, two but currently own the 7.62x39 version because I prefer that cartridge for "general" use. Also, I have a few more firearms in that caliber and none in .223 as well as enough ammunition in everything from mil surplus to quality US made to disturb my neighbor's lunch if my house ever caught fire. From what relatively little I know about Saigas, they're pretty decent, but not up to the quality (or price) of a Mini 30.

Thanks Itxi,

Since I have neither .223 or 7.62X39 ammo I suppose the Mini 30 would be a better choice, due to the caliber, all around. I'm still in the pre-purchase phase, but I do like the idea of a Ruger, so I'll check out the Mini 30, one of these days.

By the way, I see you too are in Colorado....Longmont here

[boykinguy]

Benelli M2, Bushmaster XR15, Colt Gold Cup or Taurus PT92 or Ruger Security Six or Sig 229 or ..........

[ltxi]

Parker....going on 17 years....pre-california invasion back when it was still a "small town", E-470 was new and only five miles long...hi neighbor!

I admit to having something of a bias against the .223 as a practical large person/animal killing round that goes back to my early military training and the very early M-16s. I was raised with .30-06/.308 and personally found the easily deflected .223 in a finely machined, jam insistent weapon rather annoying in a combat setting. I've always admired the concept of a .30 cal short in a cheap, loose tolerance, automatic rifle that always worked; even when I was on the wrong side of the equation.

I've also always thought Ruger's decision to chamber the "Mini" in .30 cal was a prescient move....a high quality arm in a very practical medium range cartridge with a huge mil surplus supply available.