Got my Boberg Arms XR9-S pre order form.

[TheTman]

I got my official pre-order form for the XR9-S from Boberg Arms today. They want to charge my credit card 949.00 in the next two days, with the pistol taking up to 9 weeks to appear at my FFL. That is something I normally would never go for. A lot can happen in 9 weeks. I'll sleep on it and decide tomorrow. I have a buyer for my LC9 and can probably unload the DB9 for what I paid for it. That would provide most of the funds needed.
I guess I'm looking at it as an investment in something that may prove to be an oddity in a few years. Sometimes those pay off, othertimes not.
Some are buying 2 and selling the other on the Auction sites for about twice what they paid for it, thereby getting their pistol for free.

[LaP]

I just Googled the XR9-S. Slick little pistol. At 17.5 ounces, it seems heavy.
Have you ever fired one?

[Barth]

http://www.***********/forums/non-xd-...erg-xr9-s.html

[TheTman]

I don't think anyone's been able to fire one until they've purchased it.
The extra weight is because it's an all metal frame despite the polymer look.
Frame: 7075-T6 Aluminum Alloy
Slide: High-Strength, High-Toughness Stainless Steel
Springs: Zinc-plated Music Wire
Grips: High-toughness Zytel (tm) Polymer
Pins: High-Strength, High Toughness Stainless Steel
Internal Parts: High-strength stainless steel
Magazine: High-strength stainless steel, laser-welded construction

The feeding mechanism has been a point of contention, with "Too many moving parts" as the main drawback. Boberg has this to say about that:

"These type of mechanisms had been successfully used in past weapons, but only in machine guns designed by Hiram Maxim, John M. Browning and others. The famous Browning 1919 machine gun is an example of a very reliable weapon of war using a pull-back feed mechanism. The first attempt at pull-back feeding in a pistol was done in the Mars pistol, just before the turn of the 20th century. Unfortunately, the gun suffered feed errors and failed in military qualification. Other pistol designs that located the magazine under the barrel chamber were the "blow-forward" designs that arose between 1896-1925. The principle of operation consisted of an undependable force moving the barrel forward, exposing the top of the magazine, and various methods of allowing a cartridge to rise up in line with the barrel without having it fly out of the breech area. Although novel, these designs were said to have reliability issues.

The Boberg XR9 differs from prior pistol technology in that the cartridge is positively controlled from the time it is extracted from the magazine until the empty case is ejected from the breech area. Even a poorly designed lift mechanism would feed cartridges somewhat reliably when using stopping against the inside top of the slide. However, the Boberg XR9 uses both kinematic balance of the cartridge and the top stop to provide complete and redundant control over the cartridge as it is picked from the magazine, lifted to be in-line with the barrel, and placed into the chamber."

[TheTman]

Damn, they sold out before I could get my order in! I aked a question and they were sold out by the time they answered it.

[Barth]

Damn, they sold out before I could get my order in! I aked a question and they were sold out by the time they answered it.

Yup, Yup.
Like A Seecamp .380.

I had a hard time locating a Talo Special Edition EXO Glock G27 with NS too.
Finally found one on Gunsamerica being sold by a sporting goods in South Dakota.

The drill was to put in a bid to buy online and wait to be contacted by the seller. Which I did.
But theses things are hard to secure and the fine print states the site is like online classifieds.
And the seller is free to sell the item to someone else even after you make a request to buy!

Fortunately the seller had thier phone number listed.
So I called on Sunday, verified they had one left and paid for it over the phone with my credit card.
I had them remove it from the case and ship on Monday.
Plus I followed up Monday and verified shipment (along with FFL info).

Someone could have walked in and bought it out from under me.
Even after it looked like I secured it online!

Talo estimated only about 400 G27s with Night Sights would be produced in 2011.
When you lasso a unicorn, you have to real it in pronto or it will slip away...

[TheTman]

The Boberg, Captain Kirk wants 2!

HOW IT WORKS.

Whats cool is it never runs out of bullets!

A better picture.

XR9S compared to P380

compared to PM9 Not sure there is $300 worth of difference there, other than a little more FPS and FPE. 3.35" barrel vs. 3.

[Chuck54]

"Worlds most powerful 9mm pocket pistol" ?


Why is one 9mm pocket pistol more powerful than any other 9mm pocket pistol?

[FLBri]

"Worlds most powerful 9mm pocket pistol" ?


Why is one 9mm pocket pistol more powerful than any other 9mm pocket pistol?

and along with that ... is "High-Toughness" a definable term. (Actually is even a term at all?)

[JustinN]

that "introductory" price seems high....what do they think these pocket pistols will be retailing for if they catch on?

[DPGreen]

More powerful = more velocity due to the longer barrel. That is their selling point: a longer barrel in the same size package. Problem is that you only get that velocity if it goes bang reliably. I would wait until it has been out a while (see early life issues of Kimber Solo, PF-9, PM-9, every other micro-9 that has ever been).

[Chuck54]

I'll just stick with my early PM9 that has been 100% from day one.

[jeepster09]

If you are looking for an investment.....buy a bunch of these before they get banned.

http://fostechoutdoors.com/

[JFootin]

If you are looking for an investment.....buy a bunch of these before they get banned.

http://fostechoutdoors.com/

I guess I'm slow. It says it is not a mechanical device and does not alter the rate of fire of the gun. So, those guns were full auto to begin with? If not, then how does it make them full auto?

[apheod]

bump fire is a technique of pushing the gun forward against the recoil while you keep rearward pressure on the trigger. when the gun recoils, it pushes the gun back and resets the trigger, and the pressure fires another round. its still semi auto, just fired as fast as a fully auto weapon.

the stock simply makes it easier and safer to control... doing it without a stock made for it can be hazardous as you dont have as firm a grip on the weapon.