Two Questions

[Foggy]

Why doesn't Kahr make a K45? Is there some reason it wouldn't work or be a good seller?

And why no aluminum frame offerings? I know in the past they said they
tried this and couldn't make aluminum work for whatever reason but with the technology available today I would think they could pull this one off. I for one would rather see the weight savings done with aluminum rather than plastic. Am I alone on this or does anybody else agree? I have a K9 now that I dearly love but wouldn't mind a lighter version without going the plastic route. I don't own any plastic guns now and don't plan on it. Personally I think the only plastic that should come near a gun is a credit card. Just sayin' ...

[Thunder71]

I don't have an answer to your questions, that would be one for Kahr I'd think.

Jocko has over 32,000 rounds through his 'plastic' gun... only the metal parts have worn out.

[skiflydive]

Remember when power tools had metal cases? Try and buy one now...maybe at a flea market. All of the power tool companies now make polymer housing tools with the critical components molded in. It's cheaper, more stable, easier to replace, lighter, stiffer...lots of different reasons.

One of the problems is when people think polymer they think Tupperwear. I have no idea what matrix Kahr is using but there are thousands of different "polymers" in use today and they are literally purpose designed for stiffness, lightness, tensile strength, etc. The practice of molding "cage" components into a polymer matrix like Kahr does with their slide rail cages is tried and true and nothing to worry about.

Polymer is not some second rate material. Aircraft are made of it and so are several other things we use every day.

[Foggy]

I'm not sayin plastic doesn't work. I just don't like the overall feel of it. I have shot many of them that shoot fine. It's just not my cup of tea. Guess I've been around the 1911 platform too long. Can't think of any plastic framed 1911's. STI uses plastic on the grip and trigger guard but that's it. Not used as frame material on any that I know ...

[tv_racin_fan]

There aren't any plastic framed 1911.. it wouldn't be a 1911. There are many plastic framed 45s.

[beatlesfan]

There aren't any plastic framed 1911.. it wouldn't be a 1911. There are many plastic framed 45s.

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[tv_racin_fan]

That isn't a 1911 as far as I can tell. Never knew a 1911 to be thought of as HIGH capacity STILL I stand corrected.

[beatlesfan]

That isn't a 1911 as far as I can tell. Never knew a 1911 to be thought of as HIGH capacity STILL I stand corrected.

I totally agree with you that a TRUE 1911 is a single stack and is all metal, so when you run out of rounds you can beat the guy with it lol. I'm not much a fan of plastic guns, except a few. The Kimber I referenced is in my opinion one of the ugliest guns ever, along with the PX4 Storm.

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[muggsy]

I'm not sayin plastic doesn't work. I just don't like the overall feel of it. I have shot many of them that shoot fine. It's just not my cup of tea. Guess I've been around the 1911 platform too long. Can't think of any plastic framed 1911's. STI uses plastic on the grip and trigger guard but that's it. Not used as frame material on any that I know ...

Wrap a bit of rubber around that grip, foggy. A section of a bicycle inner tube will do in a pinch.

[Tilos]

With aluminum or polymer, it's not the wow factor but the wear factor.
Tilos

[jlottmc]

Hey now I have a Beretta PX4 and it is there to see me through the Academy. It shoots fine, works every time, and doesn't suck. It's also a fair sight prettier than a Glock, or a Bohberg.

[JFootin]

Hey now I have a Beretta PX4 and it is there to see me through the Academy. It shoots fine, works every time, and doesn't suck. It's also a fair sight prettier than a Glock, or a Bohberg.

The PX4 looks bulbous in pics, but I'll bet it is beautiful in person with the Beretta workmanship, and ergonomic because of all the rounded contours. I think the subcompact one would make a viable substitute for a Glock 26/7. They look very close in size. I wonder how they compare size wise?

[jocko]

by the way now that the boberg is starting to hit the streets. any reports???Pro or con??

I willnot own one but would be interested in reading more about it.. I'd like to hear from an owner wth maybe 2500 rounds down range??

I really don't want to hear that " the boberg is a gun u carry often but shoot seldom":53:

[jlottmc]

The only thing I don't like about my Beretta is the edges on the safety and the slide stop. I'd refinish them after fixing that little issue, but don't know that I can match the black that is one there without doing the whole gun. Then again, I might be doing that if I change the sights as an all in one kind of thing. Hmmm.

[getsome]

I believe the reason is due to the cost factor of buying the machinery and set up to start making aluminum frames since they have already invested in the polymer design which is tried and true...

It is very expensive to start a machining process from the ground up and for that reason many gun companines making 1911 pistols have for many years bought their sub frames and slides from Ruger who has been in the investment casting and machining business for a long time rather than investing in new equipment to manufacture the parts in house....Ruger has just recently started making a complete 1911 pistol which may force other builders of 1911 platform pistols to look for another vendor for frames and mim parts....

It's all about the cost of doing business and the bottom line not whether or not it is possible to do it because it is but an aluminum frame pistol wouldn't be a profitable item for Kahr since most customers want the polymer frame which is their bread and butter product...