Are problem w/ my Karh posts scaring away buyers?

[Thunder71]

I have a different view on it...

Any time I see a 'used' Kahr for sale I am tempted to buy it (and have a couple times) because I know the chances of it being just fine are very high (and they have been). I personally take advantage of the situation when someone doesn't spend a few moments with their new Kahr, it's money in my pocket.

[Barth]

The mk9 I bought in April has a little problem with the striker plate cocking cam when you pull the trigger in rapid fire Rich from Kahr called Fedx and they are picking it up tomorrow What more could you ask for from a warranty My mk40 that I bought in October is smooth as glass and exudes quality You take a chance when you purchase anything and if something is wrong with it you hope the manufacturer fixes it A problem can happen to the cheapest or the most expensive guns In my opinion Kahrs are great guns in both design and looks and so importantly size

+1
My MK40 Elite has been flawless following break in.
I did have FTF issues past the 200 round break in.
But after the 400 round mark, it's been totally reliable, accurate
and smooth as glass.

I did have self induced problems with initial disassemble and assembly.
Due to the initial tightness of the gun and my own incompetence.
I bent the slid stop spring and had fits getting it apart and together.
Now after break in and with a little knowledge and experience the procedure is cake.
Also the little monster throws grip screws and continues to loosen the slide stop screw.
But that's no big either.
(My P239 and S&W 629 do too)

You can find folks having problems with any gun if you look.
Glock, Sig whatever.

Kahr's are a tight gun compared to some though.
And seem to require a little extra work to get functioning properly.
My Sigs/Glock you just pull out of the box, load and shoot.
Still, the little Thoroughbred Kahr is worth the trouble to get to know
the care and feeding of.

Once broke in, the accuracy, function, quality and handling of the gun
is in the top tier of all handguns I've had the pleasure of firing.
(H&K, Beretta, Sig Sauer, Glock, Walther, Springfield...)

[O'Dell]

I have a different view on it...

Any time I see a 'used' Kahr for sale I am tempted to buy it (and have a couple times) because I know the chances of it being just fine are very high (and they have been). I personally take advantage of the situation when someone doesn't spend a few moments with their new Kahr, it's money in my pocket.

Two of my five Kahrs were used, PM45 and CW40, and both ran fine. In fact there's a used PM40 at my LGS that's been calling my name for a couple of weeks, but with the release of the CM40, the voice is getting weaker. I still think I'll hold out for the CM45 though.

[jocko]

my K9 was used, has nbever blimped once either. great shooter and it has the NYPD trigger and I shoot it alot better than my PM9.

[jeepster09]

I bought a NIB kimber tactical pro ii from my LGS and was so excited because this fine firearm was gonna be my new ccw and after 100 rounds it was nothing but issues and it cost more than twice what a new CW45 (what I CC with now) .I got my CW45 in a trade and I'm the 3rd owner and it has functioned perfectly. My point is, guns are like anything else u buy, some are none stop problems and cost thousands of dollars so are cheap and run reliability forever. If you buy a Kahr and have an issue just send it in or get a refund.

Just to be fair, your Kimber was not broke in with only 100 rounds through it. Most guns need a couple hundred just to break in. You should not of gave up so quick, although I can understand your frustration.

[Bkahrfull]

I have over 500 rounds through my K40 outta the box that I purchased earlier in the fall. Not one FTF or FTE. Just sayin!

[Barth]

Micro guns are a challange

I have over 500 rounds through my K40 outta the box that I purchased earlier in the fall. Not one FTF or FTE. Just sayin!

I think the micros tend to be a little more fussy when new.
3" barrel, stiff double captured recoil springs, super short slide action.
It's not just Kahr.
Reliable, accurate 3" autos are a challenge for manufacturers in general IMHO.

[TheTman]

As far as the Kimber goes, my buddy's wouldn't feel Gold Dot 230gr HP. The gunsmith at the store my buddy bought his Ultra Crimson Carry II at told him to try them again after he has about 800 rounds through it. Now that's a LONG break in. I have about 700 rounds thru my CW40 and around 500 thru my CW45, and carry on or the other most the time, usually the CW45 since it has the laser on it, and I like the .45 round.
I do think the .40 is darn near the equal if not even a touch better than the .45, but I just like the .45. I say the .40 is about equal just by comparing ballistics of the various brands. Often the .40 will have the more FPS/FPE than the same cartridge in .45, due to it's being loaded to much higher pressure. But the .45 leaves just a tad bigger hole, even if it doesnt expand, and I'll take that bigger hole.
On a side note, the "big" city i live near police department is trading in it's .40's for 9mm's. I have no idea why. Wish I knew who the supplier was and get in on some of those trade ins. Although I imagine they'll probably get melted down for scrap. I think they use S&W semi's.

[BuckeyeBlast]

Another thing worth noting is that there seemed to be a while where Kahr's service was sub par to a few other manufacturers, and therefore people would continually complain about problems that Kahr should've/could've fixed immediately. From what I understand, this may be getting better.

[Knight92]

When I purchased my CW9 I had read about the issues concerning build quality from reading all the comments on the web. What I realized was a lot of these people complaining had not done the break in, but purchased and turned around and shot the pistol, then threw a fit because it was not a Glock or what not and would have FTF or FTE. This lead me to be patient with mine and take it out and and clean it first. I have almost a thousand rounds through it now since August and not one issue, of any kind.

I hope you have as much enjoyment out of your Kahr as we all have

[ltxi]

kinda makes me sick to have to say it but nice post JFootin!!!! I couldn't have said it better (well that would be a lie to) but u did well.

..x2

[CJB]

When one buys the sportscar type of pistol, there are bound to be a few tuning hiccups.

[TriggerMan]

I'm new to this forum and new to Kahrs. That being said, when you mention "Kahr" in a conversation, someone inevitably mentions problems. So, I started to do some research before buying. (I have a CM9 waiting for me, all paid for at my dealer). This forum has plenty of information and good members willing to help. I guess what I'm driving at is this: 1. Does the negativity of the threads, problem here, nosedive there, ftf fte, scare away potential buyers? 2. I believe Kahrs must achieve some good % of 1st time reliability or they would have gone out of business (like the old AMT) years ago. 3.For every problem post, how many good guns go by without a post? 4. I had a NIB Colt defender that I bought last year, It had problems with the slide not returning to battery right out of the box.I cant see how it got past their quality control. I had to send it back, and they made it right. However, I wonder if manufacturers are cranking out pistols, and hoping for the best? Cutting costs at the quality control at the expense of fixing a problem under warranty? I'm rambling at this point, sorry. YOUR THOUGHTS ?????

Recently the Kahr PM9 was discussed on SigForum. The overwhelming majority who commented had positive things to say. I had a PM9 for 6 months and sold it. Reliability was not an issue, the trigger just wasn't what I look for.

[TriggerMan]

As far as the Kimber goes, my buddy's wouldn't feel Gold Dot 230gr HP. The gunsmith at the store my buddy bought his Ultra Crimson Carry II at told him to try them again after he has about 800 rounds through it. Now that's a LONG break in. I have about 700 rounds thru my CW40 and around 500 thru my CW45, and carry on or the other most the time, usually the CW45 since it has the laser on it, and I like the .45 round.
I do think the .40 is darn near the equal if not even a touch better than the .45, but I just like the .45. I say the .40 is about equal just by comparing ballistics of the various brands. Often the .40 will have the more FPS/FPE than the same cartridge in .45, due to it's being loaded to much higher pressure. But the .45 leaves just a tad bigger hole, even if it doesnt expand, and I'll take that bigger hole.
On a side note, the "big" city i live near police department is trading in it's .40's for 9mm's. I have no idea why. Wish I knew who the supplier was and get in on some of those trade ins. Although I imagine they'll probably get melted down for scrap. I think they use S&W semi's.

If the PD dumps a bunch of S&W 3913s, give me a shout please. It's on my list!