Proper prep of a new kahr

[Ikeo74]

Sorry I should have gone into a little more detail on the shooting left problem. I shoot on a regular basis to include an H&K 40, Glock 22Gen4 40cal, and a Springfield XDS-45. All of these guns I can usually hit pretty close to what I'm aiming. When I first started shooting the Kahr P380 I was shooting low and to the left. I attributed to the low part of getting used to a double action trigger and got that corrected, however the gun is consistently shooting about 3-5 inches left of aimpoint at 10 feet. I am planning on sending the gun back but Kahr's computer program that gives you your return authorization has been down since before Christmas. I think on the aimpoint it just needs the drift adjusted. I don't know what it needs on the other problems. I look at all the forums and with so many complaining I don't know why Kahr doesn't address these issues before they ship the firearm. I shouldn't have to polish ramps and barrels ect on a gun I paid a premium price for. These issues should be taken care of at the factory.

This is my theory which I have repeated many times. The recoil springs of a very small gun such at yours have 2 springs, one inside the other. There is a great amount of friction between these springs (they rub against each other and bind) and they need to be addressed with a heavier lube than light gun oil until they smooth out with a lot of shooting. I use auto chassis grease and make sure it gets inside the springs. This will eliminate the binding and allow the gun to work as it should. Try that before sending the gun back to Kahr.
As for shooting low and left, I think it is a trigger control problem. What you need to do there is change how you pull the trigger. There is a chart that I have read, and can find, that details different finger positions to correct this. It doesn't take much error on a compact gun to cause it to shoot left and low. Most of us have had the same problem and it can be corrected without changing the drift on the sights.
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[Chansen760]

Thanks for the info on the grease. I will try that. The low part of the shooting was def a problem getting used to the double action trigger but going left I believe to be the gun. I was able to correct the down part but I shot a Ruger LCP at the same session and it has a much stiffer trigger than the Kahr and I was able to hit where I was aiming at.. I will try again before I send it back to Kahr.

[fireman1776]

Should I use the Brakleen crc when spraying in the striker channel hole? I don't typically use spray cleaners but I wanna prep my Kahr properly. Thanks!

[Bawanna]

Any non chlorinated cleaner will work fine. Most likely it doesn't need it anyway.

This was and still is an excellent thread and have saved a ton of grief during it's life span.

But we must remember that Jocko wrote this right after the dinosaurs wandered off and while many things stay the same, some things change.

Now days the feed ramps on most all Kahrs I've laid eyes on are shiny as mirrors and need nothing. A good cleaning, and lubrication now days along with some of the checks and your good to go.

If there's issues flush that striker channel, most I'm thinking are pretty pristine as they arrive.

feedramp- Ballistol's main ingredient is mineral oil. I've been using the stuff a lot and I love it. BUT I would not use it in the striker channel. I use nothing at all. If you disassemble and have the parts in hand I oil them and then wipe it all off.
Don't want anything in there to act as an attractant to dust, dirt, diatrus or democrats.

[Vetack]

Thanks for the info!

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[kwh]

Low and left extremely common on smaller pistols,even if you are experienced,more so with the Kahr's I expect.
Before you move the sights try this. Use the 2nd joint (more trigger finger) and make an effort to pull straight back. So far, every time I swear it can't be me, I try this and it has worked for all my small pistols except for my S&W Shield.
IMHO Straight wrist more important than strength of grip on the CW380. Could add to cause of FTRTB
Also, do any failures occur on the first 3 magazines? If later may be "operator error", breaking -in. I seldom shoot more than 30 rounds at one session. I try to remember these are not range guns they were made with one purpose as a civilian self defense firearm. Takes a different mind-set than other firearms.
Already doing all of these, than back she goes.

[expo]

On all my new guns...I lock the slide back and fully load the magazines and let them set a few days to a week. Seems to soften everything up like you shot several hundred rounds.

[LuckyDog58]

Hi all, I just wanted to thank this forum for all the great knowledge, especially with the break in procedures. I followed all the advice except polishing , racked the slide close to a 1000 times, kept the slide locked back overnight, r &r ed the mags, etc. I shot 180 rounds with no problems and found the accuracy to be more than adeucate but decided to leave the range before the magical 200 rounds as some newbies came in to the next stall with an Ar and proceeded to hit the ceiling (indoor range) and ground more than the target. I think I have found a new ccw firearm! The only issue I found was the mag release button was a little hard to release. This could be a issue in a stressful reload situation. Any thoughts or aftermarket help for this ? Thank you

[wmatkinson]

As was suggested by Rotty37 and Bawanna, a shot of GunScrubber or M-Pro 7 followed by a a jet of canned air is the perfect solution to clear debris and solvent from tight spaces.

A more compact solution is preferred for a range bag or field cleaning kit. As you know, M-Pro 7 comes in a small "travel size," but small size cans of that geeky computer compressed air are harder to find. An excellent alternative that I have cleaned guns with for a long time is a handy little gem called the Monoject (do a Google Images search for "monoject syringe 412"). This type of monoject does not use a needle but instead has a long curved plastic snout that is perfect to get up into tight spaces and holes.

As they come, the tip has a tiny aperture that is wonderful for shooting water across the room, but doesn't allow a whole lot of air to pass. The trick is to cut the conical tip back just a little bit with a razor blade making the hole in the tip larger, kind of like you do with silicone adhesive. The tapered plastic tip works like a venturi and forces the whole volume of the syringe to compress and exit the hole at high speed. Don't cut off too much of the tip because when you draw the syringe back, you want to "inject" air with the highest speed and force possible. This method works amazingly well to remove solvent, oil and debris from tight spaces. Best of all, the monoject plastic syringe is small, durable, fast, easy, cheap, and NEVER runs out of air!

You can get them for a few bucks wherever first aid supplies are sold, on Amazon or eBay. They come in different sizes but I have found that 12CC works fine. Just make sure you buy the style with a curved plastic conical tip that you can trim.

PS. If you don't trim it, the syringe end is conical you can push vinyl or PE tubing onto the tip for a long flexible extension if needed.

[BabyMaker_45]

I bought a can of the crc free brake cleaner at walmart for cheap. Was under 5 bucks.
yes it cleaned everything up, but took the paint right off my front sight.
i was even being careful not to get any there.
I did a poor job of re painting it with the gfs nail polish, but now im wishing i just hadnt used it at all.
would only use on stainless steel guns without any kind of finish or cerakote.
if i use it again on the karh ill put tape over the sights

[Bawanna]

Those that use it generally use it only in the striker channel when they don't want to disassemble the slide. Shouldn't need to cover the sights.
I'd not use it anywhere else, only places difficult to get to. Most cans lose their propulsion before I ever use them. Pretty rare.
I have a can of Gun Scrubber that's probably 10 years old and I don't think I've ever took the top off it, guess I should see if its still any good.

[BabyMaker_45]

I actually only sprayed it inside the striker channel. Was trying to be careful not to get it anywhere else.
This stuff is quite potent. now my channel wasn’t terribly dirty. This stuff cleaned it up real good.

a few coats of nail polish on the front sight and its good as new.
I wont use it on any other guns but may occasionally use it again on the kahr.