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    New to the forum and to Kahr and wanted to say hello to all of you.
    Today I traded my gen 3 Glock 27 for a used PM9. The guy I bought it from, bought it new this past January. He only put about a hundred rounds through it and decided it was too small for him.
    I just cleaned and oiled it and I'm looking foreword to taking it out tomorrow.

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    Welcome to the forum! here's some info and links that might be helpful:

    Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by K a h r Arms.
    Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.

    First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can view it and/or download the pdf file here:
    http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf

    Please watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
    Take down and re-assembly videos:
    T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA
    MK series:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s
    K series:
    http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
    There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.

    A very handy one is the Kahr Lubrication Diagram:
    http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
    Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.

    Another great resource for information on Kahrs... Archives of Magazine and Internet Reviews for Kahr pistols by industry experts. They test these pistols and report on their views and the ammo they tested in it. This is a good way to find ammo that might fit your needs along with accuracy and feeding in the pistol... usually from a rest with velocity and energy, as well as penetration and expansion sometimes... very informational.

    http://www.kahr.com/product-reviews.asp

    Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

    One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

    Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

    Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow

    There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


    Wynn
    Aka wyntrout

    PS: I keep thinking of stuff to add and help new members... and am trying to cover most of the popular subjects. Yes, it's repetitious to many, but possibly not to all new members. This approach is easier than having to look up every tidbit for each new member or question that arises.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
      Welcome to the forum! here's some info and links that might be helpful:

      Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by K a h r Arms.
      Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.

      First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can view it and/or download the pdf file here:
      http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf

      Please watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
      Take down and re-assembly videos:
      T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA
      MK series:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s
      K series:
      http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
      There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.

      A very handy one is the Kahr Lubrication Diagram:
      http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
      Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.

      Another great resource for information on Kahrs... Archives of Magazine and Internet Reviews for Kahr pistols by industry experts. They test these pistols and report on their views and the ammo they tested in it. This is a good way to find ammo that might fit your needs along with accuracy and feeding in the pistol... usually from a rest with velocity and energy, as well as penetration and expansion sometimes... very informational.

      http://www.kahr.com/product-reviews.asp

      Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

      One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

      Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

      Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow

      There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


      Wynn
      Aka wyntrout

      PS: I keep thinking of stuff to add and help new members... and am trying to cover most of the popular subjects. Yes, it's repetitious to many, but possibly not to all new members. This approach is easier than having to look up every tidbit for each new member or question that arises.
      Thank you very much for the warm welcome and all the information that you posted. I'm not new to firearms but I'm brand new to Kahr. All firearms are similar but they are all different at the same time. The info that you posted will be a great help to me.
      Thanks again.

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      • #4
        Welcome to the forum from North Dakota
        I'll admit---I'm trigger happy

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        • #5
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          Apparently, that notch in the rail is supposed to be there...
          We need idiot control...NOT gun control.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by paulha1950 View Post
            New to the forum and to Kahr and wanted to say hello to all of you.
            Today I traded my gen 3 Glock 27 for a used PM9. The guy I bought it from, bought it new this past January. He only put about a hundred rounds through it and decided it was too small for him.
            I just cleaned and oiled it and I'm looking foreword to taking it out tomorrow.
            Welcome from Newaygo County. I was reading about a guy wanting to trade a PM9 for any G-Lock on an in state forum the other day, maybe you got his Kahr

            The fcs45/70 one ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BucketBack View Post
              Welcome from Newaygo County. I was reading about a guy wanting to trade a PM9 for any G-Lock on an in state forum the other day, maybe you got his Kahr

              The fcs45/70 one ?
              Might be the same guy. He was on Michigan Gun Owners forum.
              I'm not sure if I did a good thing. I really loved that Glock and it was the first weapon that I bought, seven or eight years ago. I just never shot it and I wanted to cut down on the different kinds of ammo that I use.
              I still haven't tried it out yet but I'll be going to the range tomorrow.
              I've read many good things about the PM9. If it's as nice as it's said to be I'll be putting my LCP up for sale.

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              • #8
                Welcome from WV.

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                • #9
                  Always nice to see a fellow Michiganian, welcome. I love my PM9. Great carry gun and solid as a rock. Shoot the fire out of it, it will only get better.
                  A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

                  Molon Labe

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                  • #10
                    Welcome from another S/E Michigander, A great site to set back and watch, a lot of things to learn here about the kahrs.
                    Never look in the rear view mirror to see the past, and never look too far up the road to the future,, just watch where you're going.

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                    • #11
                      Re: New guy from Michigan

                      Welcome

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by paulha1950 View Post
                        New to the forum and to Kahr and wanted to say hello to all of you.
                        Today I traded my gen 3 Glock 27 for a used PM9. The guy I bought it from, bought it new this past January. He only put about a hundred rounds through it and decided it was too small for him.
                        I just cleaned and oiled it and I'm looking foreword to taking it out tomorrow.
                        I just returned from the range with my new PM9 and I have to say that it is everything that I've come to expect from a quality weapon.
                        You guys were right! It is one of the finest shooting small pistols that I have ever fired. I only put fifty rounds through it but it ran perfectly and felt very comfortable in my hand. Smooth trigger and well balanced. It's a keeper!!

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                        • #13
                          Great news. I'm happy for you!

                          You guys about finished up with ice fishing for the season up there in the frozen waste lands of Michigan?

                          We're showing signs of spring on my side of the greatest nation in the world still but some on your end say it's still a ways off.
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                          Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                          Cue sound of Head slap.

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                          • #14
                            As we type, the ice has left the ponds just in the last few days. It is fun now to shoot outdoors with fingers that bend.
                            Never look in the rear view mirror to see the past, and never look too far up the road to the future,, just watch where you're going.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                              Great news. I'm happy for you!

                              You guys about finished up with ice fishing for the season up there in the frozen waste lands of Michigan?

                              We're showing signs of spring on my side of the greatest nation in the world still but some on your end say it's still a ways off.
                              You must be talking about the Upper Peninsula!!!! We don't have any snow on the ground in the South East. "WASTE LAND"????????? Those are pretty rough words cyber Hubby. I'm cut to the bone.

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