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  • New to Kahr - PM9 shell casing question

    Recently acquired a PM9. I took it apart, cleaned and lubed. I noticed that I can chamber a round racking the slide vs pressing the slide release, which is good, as I am a lefty. I noticed that after I chamber a round and eject it the shell casing is scratched - usually a vertical scratch. I don't see this with a glock or a sig. Is this peculiar to Kahr? I assume the tolerances are much tighter and the gun has never been shot, so this might be the reason. I don't think this is a problem, just seems very unusual. I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks!

  • #2
    A photo or two would be nice and possibly a better way to evaluate the problem, if there is one.

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    • #3
      how do i attach one?

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      • #4
        Your photos must be uploaded to a hosting site such as Photobucket in order to place them in a posting.

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        • #5
          http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Ba...36537768026567

          see attached photo

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BarneyC View Post
            BC:

            That is not normal.
            Cambering and ejecting a cartridge should not produce scrape like that.
            Check the magazine feed lips and see if there is a burr on the edge that touches the cartridge.
            Keep us posted.
            HTH.


            -steve
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            • #7
              Thanks! No burrs. I think the new Kahr mags lip edges a lot sharper than digs and glocks. As the cartridge slides out of the mag into the chamber, the combination of sharp edges and tight springs causes the scratch. I don't think this would affect anything. Once I take it to the range I'll report on reliability. Has anyone else experienced this? Everyone on the forum has been great!

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              • #8
                The edges of the lips on those little Kahr mags can be quite sharp.
                Get some 600 grit sandpaper, take your mags apart and slightly break that sharp edge on the mag lips.
                The scratches on your casings should go away.

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                • #9
                  To post a picture using your linked photo, use the on the message menu here and then paste the "Direct" link from upper right at Photobucket in the Share Window. Use a page/window for Kahrtalk and a separate one for Photobucket. A click on Direct will copy the link to paste into the "insert photo" window.

                  Wynn



                  You can mark the cartridge and see from which direction the scratch is coming. And feel all of the surfaces involved for burrs. That's a major scratch!
                  USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
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                  Thomas Jefferson said

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                  and

                  "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                  • #10
                    Called kahr and they said this is normal.

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                    • #11
                      That's not normal. If that happened to my ammo every time I unloaded the pistol, I would get it fixed!

                      Did you send them the picture? That's why my contacts with them are by email... pictures included and fast answers, especially if you contact Jay:

                      Jay D'Andrea

                      jay.dandrea@kahr.com

                      Kahr Customer Service 508-795- 3919
                      Wynn
                      USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                      Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                      Thomas Jefferson said

                      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                      and

                      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                        ...

                        Wynn



                        You can mark the cartridge and see from which direction the scratch is coming. And feel all of the surfaces involved for burrs. That's a major scratch!
                        As that scratch appears to start on the cartridge rim, my guess is that the slide's "pick up" rail (center rail that strips rounds from magazine) is causing it.
                        BarneyC, you might want to check that rail for a sharp edge/burr/damage/lack of bevel.
                        Regards,
                        Greg
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                        • #13
                          I just spoke with Jay from Kahr. He indicted that this is both normal and common. The claw of the extractor causes the scratch. I guess I'm ok with it, as long as it doesn't impair functionality.

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                          • #14
                            Spoke... I think the picture is proof that this is beyond normal! The extractor claw grips the rim of the case as the case is grabbed by the lower part of the slide... the stripper... as the case slides up the breechface and is HELD from chambering through ejection... including firing. The stripper could be scratching the case if it's rough and unbeveled.

                            Wynn
                            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                            Thomas Jefferson said

                            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                            and

                            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                            • #15
                              the scratch is caused by the sharp mag lips. I noticed there is an identical scratch on the opposite side of the casing.

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