S&W M&P vs. Glock

[Popeye]

Xd's are also very nice pistols. I had a XD9SC and would still have it if I didn't buy the Kahr PM9. I'll be looking closely at the XD slim 9mm when they come out as I'm a big fan of the grip safety and the way the XD breaks down.

[MO_Soldier]

In a comparison like this, I would expect to see the Springfield XD and XDM being considered, too.

Good point. But I have already checked out the XD's in person and have eliminated them based on the price. I see the M&P and Glock being great alternatives to that pistol and I'll save $200+ that way too.

If I get a little limp-wristy, some of my Glocks will smack me with brass. It's not an every shot occurrence though and I mostly have Gen 4 guns. Since you said that you take them down and clean them frequently, you might want to get someone to demonstrate how both guns are broken down. I've been told that the S&W's are not easy as the Glocks, but I can't verify that since I haven't cleaned my M&P Shield yet. I went through this very comparison before buying my first semi-auto and I chose Glock and kept buying Glocks. Haven't had a problem Glock yet. I will say that the M&P does feel good in the hand though.

Oh, there is also a big difference in the triggers out of the box...the Glock is a lot nicer, but I read that the M&P triggers can be improved by adding Apex parts.

I can field strip my M-16 and reassemble in 1 minute. I think I can handle an M&P (Famous last words lol)
Edited to thank Melissa for the advice despite my smartass remark Sorry

[MO_Soldier]

Does anyone know about the 6 round addition thingy that you can add on to the M&P?
I can't find anything solid on it. It'd be awesome to have a 22 capacity capability at home!

Speaking of that...I REALLY need more magazines for my Kahr. My only 2 that I carry 24/7 are getting worn out too quickly!

[Bawanna]

Your a wise editor man. I'm told Melissa can field strip and reassemble her Glock, slap you silly, and have lunch in under a minute.

I have no proof of this but rumors are rampant.

[el_chupo_]

I will toss my hat in the Glock circle. I have a Gen4, and have yet to be hit in the face with brass (from this weapon...).

Like most, I dont find the Glock to be a "natural pointer" - but I do find that once I am used to it (a few rounds) I adjust quickly, with no problems. I shot one the *first* time at the range taking my CHL class. I did very well, but this was a couple years prior to deciding to purchase.

my reasons for choosing -

1. History - while I have no doubts the M&P is a solid gun, the Glock has proven it for several decades and tests.
2. I can work on it. There are something like 35 parts in a Glock. Including 4 in the mag. I need 1 tool to take anything and everything apart and put it back together.
3. Parts - I can find ANYTHING for a glock.
4. Compatibility. While this is changing with more departments branching out, Glocks are everywhere. this means parts, mags, "glocksmiths", etc are everywhere.


The M&P made the short list for a full size, and with family working with a large PD that just switched, I had lots of info on both.

The reality is, both are good guns. With a price difference of ~$50 bucks, neither is a clear winner, but so get the one you like best.

[melissa5]

Your a wise editor man. I'm told Melissa can field strip and reassemble her Glock, slap you silly, and have lunch in under a minute.

I have no proof of this but rumors are rampant.

LOL! Not quite.

MO, I wasn't questioning your ability. I'm just such a Glock fan girl that nothing will ever be as good or as easy as a Glock. Sorry, Bawanna.

[MO_Soldier]

LOL! Not quite.

MO, I wasn't questioning your ability. I'm just such a Glock fan girl that nothing will ever be as good or as easy as a Glock. Sorry, Bawanna.

Well you all heard it here boys, Melissa's into "easy" lol

I like the glocks myself. I've only ever shot a subcompact .45 glock with a mag extension though...

[Bawanna]

Well you all heard it here boys, Melissa's into "easy" lol


Careful son, that's my cyber bride your talking about (I have no idea where this affection she has for glocks comes from) and I'm the wicked jealous type.

Did that sound pretty scary coming from a out of shape derelict in a wheelchair?

King of the Mall Ninjas?

[jocko]

dated a gal many years ago, her last name was glock, and oh yes she was easy!!! Just sayin.



Now I am not an anit glock fan or M & P fan, I have had um both. Dave Bowie did a number on my M & P ( that made that gun suepr scrary, never felt a nice gun, his custom stipplying work was also awesome, but tyhat gun and me just never warmed up to each other, so I peddled it a a big loss. Now I have an accurate Iron totally tuned and stoppled and ported G19 that is the finest shootin gun I have ever owned. With dawsn fiber optic ajsutsble sights on it and the work that Mike at accurate Iron did on thisgun, it is my best shooter in allmy years of shooting. I am not a good shot but this gun makes me feel powerful, it isthat good. so I guess I have to agree wtih Melissa. Actually when I got it stippled I had the finger groovbes eliminated and the gun realy looks and feels great..

[Sage]

I've only owned one Glock, a Gen4 23. Due to brass to the face issues I took it to Glock in Smyrna, Georgia. They replaced the RSA, extractor and ejector. This did not resolve the problem. I also had about a 3% ftf-fte rate. I finally sold it. I never considered it to be reliable enough to carry. Most Glock owners will tell you they are completely reliable and have had no problems.
I would advise you go to the GlockTalk site and read, read and read. Good Luck.

[jocko]

oh my another glock owner with issues. It can't be!!! earlier on a poster called his kahr PM9 a hit and miss gun, humm sounds like even glocks can be hit and miss: Just sayin..

[Markis82]

I'm a Glock guy myself. I'd stay away from the Gen 4's. But I'd bet my life on a Gen 3. I have owned several over the years of different calibers and they have been nothing but outstanding. My current G19 Gen 3 has thousands of rounds thur it. 100% perfect. Personally, when talking about a no frills, plain out, balls to the wall shooter, I'll choose Glock every time.

[jocko]

My Gen 3 had to go back once, went bang every time just would not lock open. I love the gun. course my son has it now, so it is now a long lost love for me.

[wlc]

The M&P fits my hand and points more naturally. I have a 9c and 9fs. The full size is my favorite. If you have an extended mag or pinky extension on the compact a lot of the size advantage is gone. I also like Glock and XD, just not as well. I plan to check out the Shield after it has been around for a while.

[Barth]

Rockin my not so stock 357 Glock