S&W M&P vs. Glock

[Popeye]

Barth when I hear people talk about a pistols accuracy I have to wonder is it just because they shoot that particual pistol more accurately than the actual accuracy of the pistol. I really think it's the individual persons ability to shoot a certain brand or style better because the ergo's fit them better.

From my experience from owning many different brands of pistols, your right there all fine pistols. Either that or the pistols gods have blessed me with all the good ones. (not hardly) I've had very few problems with any of the pistols I've owned and none have ever gone back to the factory. I do leave them all in there stock configuration though as I carry them all at one time or another. Some more than others. I shot my friends new MP9 last week for the first time and I must say for never having shot one before I was very impressed with the ergo's and overall feel and balance of the pistol. I believe that's why I shot it fairly well the first time out. I might consider one at some point down the road but as of late I seem to be leaning towards all steel hammer fired pistols..Top of the list for me is the CZ PO1. What a fantastic pistol that is IMO.

[jeepster09]

In a comparison like this, I would expect to see the Springfield XD and XDM being considered, too.

I so agree, I have had each and PREFER the XDm 3.8

[cal45]

+1 they are all fine guns and you can't really go wrong with any of them.
I have a Kahr MK40 Elite and a Glock G27.
They are both flawless.
Friends have XDs and M&Ps and speak the same of them.

I always recommend folks make a short list of guns they are interested in.
Rent and shoot them.
And see which they favor.

We have similar tastes - I have my newly purchesed MK9 Elite and a Glock 30SF (which I carry with the flush fit 9 rd mag).

[Barth]

Barth when I hear people talk about a pistols accuracy I have to wonder is it just because they shoot that particual pistol more accurately than the actual accuracy of the pistol. I really think it's the individual persons ability to shoot a certain brand or style better because the ergo's fit them better.

There was a long thread involving accuracy, including a hickock45 video on the subject, on a different forum.
Almost no one has a ransom rest to determine absolute accuracy of one weapon verses another.
And since humans are actually going to shoot it, not a machine, I'm not sure how important that is anyway.

When I say one gun is more accurate than another.
I mean in my hands, for me, I find it's more accurate.
Ergonomics, sights, triggers and more are huge in that respect.

I personally don't shoot H&K or Beretta pistols well.
Does that mean those guns are inaccurate?
No way.

[Popeye]

Totally agree. I personally do not shoot 40 caliber pistols very well. I once had a used S&W 4013. It was a absolutely beautiful and reliable pistol. After owning it for a while I found out that it was just not a good fit for me know matter how much I loved the look of it. I just did not shoot it very well. I really wanted to like that pistol but I ending up trading it for a XD9sc. It was a lesson well learned.