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  • #16
    I have three AR's and I always take what the Colt fan boys say with a grain of salt.

    That being said, I own a Colt SP1, DPMS and home-built AR with Colt, DPMS and Aero parts.

    Bolt carriers are two BCM, and two DPMS.

    All run well. All cost under $900 each, with one at $600.

    The most accurate and most rounds, is the factory stock DPMS. People dog them, but mine is great and has done a one day rifle course without a hickup.

    The old Colt SP1 is a 20" full stock A2 model with National Match sights. I found an old 1960's style Colt 4x20 scope to put on it and it is very accurate, but I haven't put enough rounds in it to say it is more accurate than my factory DPMS, but it might be. It had a lot of rounds down the tube when I bought it (1970's gun) so I replaced the barrel and hammer and springs (trigger was down to less than 2 pounds because of wear, great for shooting, no so much for safety) , best guess is 10 to 20K or more. New barrel only has 200rds but I like it so far.

    For best-bang for the buck and reliability the M&P15 Sport seems to be the winner right now IMO. If they were more common on the used market I might buy one, but I haven't seen one for sale used locally in a over year. (Which could mean people love them and won't sell)

    Over on GlockTalk there is a thread about a gun range owner who is doing a long term test between a M&P15 Sport and Colt 6920, both guns are on the rental counter and used by walk-in customers, not babied at all, just lubed and not cleaned for the first 1000 rds. Seems SW has a winner here. Colt fan boys are eating their hats since a $600 rifle is going head to head with a $1000 gold-standard rifle and winning in accuracy and a tie everywhere else.

    Good luck with your choice and keep us posted.
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

    USAF (Ret)
    NRA Life Member
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    • #17
      I can get a Stag Arms Model 3 for $800. All I have to do is show up tomorrow with the cash.

      I held and fondeled the Stag and a Windham SRC today for longer than I'll admit to... I am liking the Stag. The Windham is virtually the same price. And in reality 800-850 is the top of my price range so the RRA and Colts are out of my league.

      http://www.stagarms.com/product_info...roducts_id=208

      http://www.windhamweaponry.com/pdf/U...SRPPRICING.pdf

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JimBianchi View Post
        I have three AR's and I always take what the Colt fan boys say with a grain of salt.

        That being said, I own a Colt SP1, DPMS and home-built AR with Colt, DPMS and Aero parts.

        Bolt carriers are two BCM, and two DPMS.

        All run well. All cost under $900 each, with one at $600.

        The most accurate and most rounds, is the factory stock DPMS. People dog them, but mine is great and has done a one day rifle course without a hickup.

        The old Colt SP1 is a 20" full stock A2 model with National Match sights. I found an old 1960's style Colt 4x20 scope to put on it and it is very accurate, but I haven't put enough rounds in it to say it is more accurate than my factory DPMS, but it might be. It had a lot of rounds down the tube when I bought it (1970's gun) so I replaced the barrel and hammer and springs (trigger was down to less than 2 pounds because of wear, great for shooting, no so much for safety) , best guess is 10 to 20K or more. New barrel only has 200rds but I like it so far.

        For best-bang for the buck and reliability the M&P15 Sport seems to be the winner right now IMO. If they were more common on the used market I might buy one, but I haven't seen one for sale used locally in a over year. (Which could mean people love them and won't sell)

        Over on GlockTalk there is a thread about a gun range owner who is doing a long term test between a M&P15 Sport and Colt 6920, both guns are on the rental counter and used by walk-in customers, not babied at all, just lubed and not cleaned for the first 1000 rds. Seems SW has a winner here. Colt fan boys are eating their hats since a $600 rifle is going head to head with a $1000 gold-standard rifle and winning in accuracy and a tie everywhere else.

        Good luck with your choice and keep us posted.
        My shop had a DPMS and the trigger felt like it had sand in it. The M&P Sports are nowhere to be found. That may be my second AR purchase down the line. :33: The front sight on it is permanent and all I want for now is a flatop I can scope. I looked at the MP 15 too. Pretty nice but >$900 so I was led to the Stag and Windham.

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        • #19
          Hey John, are you familiar with CMMG, a local show me company. I looked at these too but are really an unknown (I believe) in the AR market.

          http://www.cmmginc.com/

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          • #20
            I went with the Stag Arms Model 3. I put a scope on and sighted it this weekend. Everything was good. 6 inch groups at 100 yards. And...I ain't the greatest marksman. Trigger was really good, ease of operation likewise.

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