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  • #16
    Originally posted by Yogi 117 View Post
    I preface my thoughts with, I wish I had a Glock in all calibers, but by your statement of CCW carry often & hunting rarely, to me the 10mm is over kill. While a great round, you will find it harder to locate, and when you do, price is quite a bit higher. To me, you're on the right track with the .40s&w in either the G23 or G27. I would even consider a Glock 30SF in .45acp if size matters. JMHO!
    I have had no problem finding 10mm. I just bought 6, 50 round boxes of hollow points for $18.95 a box. Lone wolf offers 357 sig and 40 s&w barells that drop right in. Using the .40 even uses same mags. SF is for shorter grip for us with smaller hands [grip is less circumference].
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    • #17
      Yea, that 29SF looks like a winner. Same mags as .40, just drop different bbls in for a new caliber gun, and the ability of increased capacity and grip with larger mags and grip extensions.

      I dont think the extra .5" between compact and SC is measurable. I shoot well up to 25ft with my 3" PM9.
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      • #18
        Yes, SF is Short Frame. The grip is not as deep between the web of the hand and fingers. I understand the Gen 4 has replaceable back straps so you can decide after you buy it if you want short frame or not. For me the standard Glock is like holding a 2x4 but the SF, while not compact like the PM 9, fits well.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by MO_Soldier View Post
          Well Yogi, the main point is versatility. I don't make much money, as i am young and starting out in my career. The .40, .357, and 9mm are all available conversion barrels for $150.
          In order to take advantage of all the options, you have to get the largest pistol that can convert.

          As I just learned, that is the 10mm.
          I knew the .45 didn't convert :'(

          Thats the advantage in going with the 10mm vs the .40. You get 4 options instead of 3.
          I love Glocks & in no way was bad mouthing the 10mm. Go for it, sounds like you've already answered your own questions. Good luck & have fun!
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          • #20
            Oh, i didnt take it like that at all Yogi. Just clarifying my intentions. Even if i bought the 10mm, i may use that bbl once a year, and the rest of the time keep a different bbl in it.
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            • #21
              Some things to consider:

              The G29/30 size Glocks are quite a bit larger than the G25/27/33 size guns; they are closer in size (but still thicker) to the G19/23 platform.
              (FWIW, I briefly owned a G30SF and found it too thick for my tastes, especially for IWB carry; of course YMMV in this regards.)
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIfTAQpQDw

              Is 10mm that much more a superior cartridge to .40 S&W in shorter barrel lengths?
              http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/index.html

              9/40/357 conversions in the G29 will have to feed from magazines designed for the 29/30-20/21 frame size. I think 15 is the highest capacity in 10mm.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MO_Soldier View Post
                Oh, i didnt take it like that at all Yogi. Just clarifying my intentions. Even if i bought the 10mm, i may use that bbl once a year, and the rest of the time keep a different bbl in it.
                No worries, it's all cool. If it were me on a tight budget, I would just get 2 Glock's, the 10mm for the woods and, say a G27 for CC. I don't think I would want to be CC'ing a G29 or G20 with a smaller caliber barrel, as the size of your weapon hasn't changed at all. If you're going to spend $450 in extra barrels (and possibly more $$ on magazines & guiderod assemblies (not sure if these need to be changed out with barrel change)), might as well get a woods gun & a CC gun, limit yourself to 2 calibers & practice with both to ensure accuracy. Just thinkin' out loud, hopefully giving you more ideas to think about.
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                • #23
                  Just get a G30 and be done with it!
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                  • #24
                    If your set on a forty the 23 if you can conceal it, the 27 if not. My EDC is a 26.
                    It's the stakes, not the odds.

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                    • #25
                      I think it'd be awful hard to conceal the 19, or 23 with the clothes I wear. But for winter carry OWB under a jacket, or open carry in the woods, I think the 27 with extended mag and grips would be ideal.

                      With my budget, I can simply add 2 $100-130 conversion barrels over time as my budget allows.

                      I will really stick to keeping my PM9 as EDC though.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MO_Soldier View Post
                        I think it'd be awful hard to conceal the 19, or 23 with the clothes I wear. But for winter carry OWB under a jacket, or open carry in the woods, I think the 27 with extended mag and grips would be ideal.

                        With my budget, I can simply add 2 $100-130 conversion barrels over time as my budget allows.

                        I will really stick to keeping my PM9 as EDC though.
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                        • #27
                          damn now i want a 29 gen 4 with all this talk.... I have a 27 gen 4 with a drop in 9 lone wolf and love that setup.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MO_Soldier View Post
                            I think it'd be awful hard to conceal the 19, or 23 with the clothes I wear. But for winter carry OWB under a jacket, or open carry in the woods, I think the 27 with extended mag and grips would be ideal.......
                            I don't see that. I have a 23 and a 27. Put an extended mag in a 27 and you've functionally turned it into a 23 for concealed carry purposes. Minimal difference in barrel length is not usually the issue.
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                            • #29
                              Just don't forget your MIL/LEO discount from Glock. Need to buy from a regional distributor
                              to an FLL but at $399 to $425 per unit, it's a blessing.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by OldLincoln View Post

                                I have a .45 Colt Commander that is thinner than my Pm9 but the grip makes it difficult for me to conceal.
                                How is your .45acp colt thinner than a pm9?

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