I have a new Walther PPQ!

[Jason4x4]

My neighbor has this in a .40, and he hates it, he was trying to sell it up until he realized it will be hard to find a replacement right now.

[Barth]

My neighbor has this in a .40, and he hates it, he was trying to sell it up until he realized it will be hard to find a replacement right now.

The PPQs have a reputation, founded or not, for excessive recoil and muzzle flip.
The 40 would be pronounced in that respect over a 9mm.

If recoil is the reason for dissatisfaction?
I would recommend sub sonic 180 gr.
Federal makes a low recoil sub sonic 165 gr,
and Winchester produced a 135 gr 1200 fps round,
that are reported to be low recoil as well.

[Scoundrel]

The PPQs have a reputation, founded or not, for excessive recoil and muzzle flip.
The 40 would be pronounced in that respect over a 9mm.

Dunno about the .40, but I do not find that to be the case with my 9mm PPQ.

[JFootin]

I have found the recoil to be a bit surprising with my PPQ 9mm. I think my CM9 is easier, maybe because the much smaller, thinner gun is easier to grip and control. So far, I have only had time to shoot 31 rounds through mine, but I had a painful little red mark on my thumb where it was scratched by the edge of the hole where the upper frame pin goes during recoil. I smoothed the sharpness of the edge of that hole, so I'll see if it helps when I get back to the range. Still a very shootable gun, and easy to be accurate with. Just a lot to try and wrap my tiny, crippled hands around. It will be fine if I can keep my thumb comfortable.

Interestingly, the Caracal C that I had an opportunity to shoot at the range, though an almost identical size and weight gun, surprised me in the opposite way, demonstrating amazingly mild felt recoil. If they ever get their act together with distribution, parts availability and stability of those operations over time, I might like to own one.

As I understand it, the G19 is pretty mild on felt recoil, also. But that chunky grip is even harder for me to get my hands around.

Oh well. I'll see what the market does over the next few months.

[JFootin]

I decided to order one of these holsters from Tim Thurner at TT Gunleather, the Slim IWB EC Mike's Special. Just $75. Tim says it is the most comfortable holster that he makes. The extra cant is what really interested me because I believe it will make this large pistol easier to conceal and draw. Tim's products are highly praised, so I am pleased to add this fine holster to my gun wardrobe! (Turnaround is 90-120 days, but if you call or email your order he will wait until near time to do your holster to arrange payment. So I emailed him. It looks like it will be late June or early July.)

(I canceled the order for the Desbiens AIWB holster because I don't think it would be comfortable for me when seated.)

[ripley16]

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Interestingly, the Caracal C that I had an opportunity to shoot at the range, though an almost identical size and weight gun, surprised me in the opposite way, demonstrating amazingly mild felt recoil. If they ever get their act together with distribution, parts availability and stability of those operations over time, I might like to own one.

* Caracal has two recalls out on their three models. One for unintended firing when dropped and the other for slide failure problems. I'd wath what happens on this front before trying to buy one.

* It seems Walther has discontinued the PPQ and is now only dealing the newer PPX. A mistake a move backwards IMHO.

* That's a nice looking holster. I'll have to google the maker to see what all he carries.

[JFootin]

* Caracal has two recalls out on their three models. One for unintended firing when dropped and the other for slide failure problems. I'd wath what happens on this front before trying to buy one.

Definitely. I hope they do get their act together, though, because it is the softest shooting compact 9 on the market.

* It seems Walther has discontinued the PPQ and is now only dealing the newer PPX. A mistake a move backwards IMHO.

The PPQ hasn't been discontinued. They are rolling out the M2 version now, the only change being a reversible push button mag release in place of the (better, IMO) ambidextrous levers below the trigger. They will still be making the "Classic" version for Europe and the M2 is only for the U.S. market. So far, the decision makers in Germany have stubbornly held to a decision to no longer import and market the Classic in the U.S., making a lot of loyal customers who prefer the levers (or paddles) very angry. You see, many people here prefer the paddle (including me), and there are owners of multiple Walther guns who are insensed because the M2 magazines will not work in the Classic or any of the P99 models that they own. It would be no problem at all for them to continue marketing the Classic here. Just German arrogance and stubbornness.

Doesn't Glock continue to market the Gen 3 guns beside the Gen 4 guns? I think the Walther leaders need to go to customer relations classes.

The PPX is brand new. Like the Kahr C guns, it is aimed at a lower price market. It has a similar trigger to the PPQ. But it does not have as robust frame construction as the PPQ and P99. It has a non reversible push button mag release.

* That's a nice looking holster. I'll have to google the maker to see what all he carries.

Just click the holster title. It is a hot link to his website.

[Popeye]

Don't know how I missed this post? JF that is sweet . I shot a friend of mines PPS9 a while back and I was more than impressed with it.Good luck.

[JFootin]

Popeye, I am liking the gun a lot! It's a compact, about the same size as a G19. I got it as my bedside gun, but I am finding it is very carriable and concealable in the right holster. So far, I am very pleased with the Aholster Belt Holster. The gun rides sort of medium high and close to the body, so a loose enough coat, jacket or thick shirt will hide it. Very stable, all day comfortable, click out to draw, click in for good retention. The thick rubber snap loops make it extra classy! Some of you guys with G19s ought to look at this holster for serious carry. :59: (Why do ALL of the gun shooting smilies look so angry?)

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Barrel Fever!

Hey Barth,

I just ordered a ported barrel for this surprisingly snappy PPQ!



Guess I caught the Barrel Fever from you! :86:

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Another Holster for the PPQ

Yesterday, I ordered one of the FoxX Hybrid Holsters for my PPQ after having read many positive reports about the quality. Just $39 shipped! I got it all black like the one pictured below. This morning, I snagged a pair of leather snap loops from the Marketplace to use with it. I'll probably get it in about 10 days, so I'll report on it then.

[Barth]

Hey Barth,

I just ordered a ported barrel for this surprisingly snappy PPQ!



Guess I caught the Barrel Fever from you! :86:

LOL,
I hope it works out for you.
My Glock G27 with a ported 357 Sig barrel is magical.
It feels like a 9mm.
The difference between that and the OEM G33 357 barrel is night and day.
Feels like a different gun.
I really think porting is more effective with high velocity super sonic rounds.
My ported 45 ACP is much less impressive.

[JFootin]

LOL,
I hope it works out for you.
My Glock G27 with a ported 357 Sig barrel is magical.
It feels like a 9mm.
The difference between that and the OEM G33 357 barrel is night and day.
Feels like a different gun.
I really think porting is more effective with high velocity super sonic rounds.
My ported 45 ACP is much less impressive.

Well, 9mm is a faster round than 45. We'll have to see when I can put some rounds thru it. Winter doesn't seem to want to end here, yet, but hopefully Spring will bring more pleasant weather soon.

It is a good looking SS barrel with a target crown and 5.1" length, so it should help with accuracy, too. The fit and lockup seem perfect. I don't mind the extra barrel length for carrying like some do. I have two holsters on order that will accommodate it, no problem. The one I have, the Aholster Belt Holster has an open bottom, but I am going to have to modify it to make it open wider. I don't have a heat gun, but hopefully a hair dryer will soften it up enough. If not. I'll try (carefully) holding it over a burner on the electric stove. I am going to use a tapered cane shaft to push through from inside, creating a rounded place in the open bottom where the barrel can stick out.

ITMT, I added to my defensive knife collection. A modest investment of just $7.24 on eBay. A Meyerco Double Edge Necklace. Thin, light, a pretty handy tool. This would work superbly for ladies because they can hide it so well! It wants to print on my middle aged spread under just a T-shirt.

[JFootin]

Quick Turnaround at FoxX!

I ordered that FoxX Hybrid Holster late Friday night and I got an email today saying it has been shipped! His estimate at the time of the order said 4-5 days, not counting weekends. I bet he worked this weekend! Excellent!

[Salty]

Mag releases on most pistols are just not smooth like the CZ 52 and Markarov. lol I am still stuck on my 1911's and xd's in plastic - I am glad to see someone else is branching out.