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    Not sure if this is the right forum but the question I have is does anyone have experience with cold lapping a brand new barrel on a rifle?


    I have two brand spanking new, never fired Win Mod 70's, one in .25-06 and the other in .270. From what I've learned, lapping in a barrel, either cold or hot, will definitely make cleaning sessions much easier and MAY increase accuracy.


    Although the cleaning part would be nice I am more interested in the accuracy area. Now, being as these have never been fired I can't compare the before and after.


    Just curious if anyone on the board has any experience with lapping a rifle barrel and if you were happy with the results?

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    I lapped a 1000yd douglas barrel on a mauser action many years ago. I could not tell accuracy change but it did make it much easier to clean. I bought a kit to lap it I think from brownells.

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    • #3
      Any accuracy improvement that you might see comes from the barrel fouling less. My Dad used to lap the barrels of the custom sporters that he built. I never saw a real need for it in a hunting rifle.
      Last edited by muggsy; 03-31-2014, 09:52 AM.
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      • #4
        Cold lapping

        What is cold lapping???


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        • #5
          I just bought a Ruger American Rimfire. The first thing I did was run a couple of patches covered with JB bore cleaner about 50 times down the barrel.

          Whether it works or not I do not know but it made me feel like I did something good.
          First set of 30 rounds at 25 yd. with CCI mini mags was not too bad considering I laid the gun over a log, seated, and just pulled the trigger.

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          • #6
            You could drive a soft lead ball through your barrel and push it through several more times with some fine polish on it.

            I have fire lapped a 44 mag as it was tight at the breech and leaded badly just past the forcing cone.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 340pd View Post
              I just bought a Ruger American Rimfire. The first thing I did was run a couple of patches covered with JB bore cleaner about 50 times down the barrel.

              Whether it works or not I do not know but it made me feel like I did something good.
              First set of 30 rounds at 25 yd. with CCI mini mags was not too bad considering I laid the gun over a log, seated, and just pulled the trigger.

              It looks like something is working just fine, good shooting!

              I also have done the JB bore paste trick to some of my new barrels. I have an old Gun Bible that has a good how-to prep a new barrel write up using JB paste in it. So I follow his methods and do it to my more precision rifles... Does it help? I don't know. Doesn't seem to hurt though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BEARDOG View Post
                I also have done the JB bore paste trick to some of my new barrels. I have an old Gun Bible that has a good how-to prep a new barrel write up using JB paste in it. So I follow his methods and do it to my more precision rifles... Does it help? I don't know. Doesn't seem to hurt though.
                So maybe if you believe it helps, and because of that you shoot more confidently, it leads to better performance.

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                • #9
                  I've firelapped a few milsurp barrels over the years, but never a new factory barrel.
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                  • #10
                    Food for thought.

                    http://www.shootingtimes.com/2010/09...barrel_200805/

                    http://www.ktgunsmith.com/firelapping.htm

                    http://www.bellmtcs.com/FAQ/Fire_Lapping.htm
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                    • #11
                      There is a difference in how you you treat a lower quality production barrel and a highend custom barrel. Don't think lapping a douglas or pac nor or kreiger and other top end custom quality barrels could improve them and could hurt as there already polished and air gaged . But on a production barrel it can't do anything but help it. Followed by a quality barrel break in.

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                      • #12
                        Hammer forged barrels dont benefit much or any.

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                        • #13
                          Well, after reading much, a lot more research and the advice/opinions I've gotten on here, I've decided to get both rifles lapped before firing the first round through either.

                          Now I just need to decide between fire lapping or cold lapping. There's a couple of gunsmiths around that I trust and will find out what the charge for the cold lapping before deciding to try the fire lapping myself.

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                          • #14
                            Anyone have any experience with this fella's products? He doesn't carry .25-06 but I can get the .270 from him. Still haven't gotten any price quotes on cold lapping from a gunsmith. And I am still thinking about going with the JB Bore.


                            http://www.davidtubb.com/

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                            • #15
                              Tubb's stuff is the standard that everyone else is measured against.
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