Bolt rifles

[Streetkahr]

Bolt Rifles

Zastava provided me with the barreled Mark X actions upon which my two bolt guns were built. Check out their civilian line of rifles. Mine look like the American Style M-70s.

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/civili...american-style

Thanks for that. It was nice to be able to look over their whole line up. I am still considering their M85 mini-Mauser in 7.62x39, and at under $400, it is tempting. What is your opinion of Zastava quality? How does it compare to Winchester and Remington?

[JohnR]

Zastava makes some Remington models, if that tells you anything.

[Streetkahr]

Zastava makes some Remington models, if that tells you anything.

Wow, I didn't know that. Yes, that tells me a lot, and it gives more weight to their mini-Mauser along with a sub-$400 sticker and dirt cheap ammo. It would be much cheaper to own and shoot than a pistol caliber lever action which I had been considering as a low profile urban combat carbine. The Zastava looks to be several hundred dollars less that a Marlin lever, and given the Marlin QC problems of the past few years, probably a much better value, and the Japanese Winchester levers are very expensive.

[Streetkahr]

Ruger Gunsite Scout is my next

They are impressive. My closest LGS has one in .308 and 5.45. I can't really remember, but I think they were over $700. I really like the Jeff Cooper Scout Rifle concept. Back then, for those on a lesser budget, he used to advocate a .303 Enfield, although he knew most people were choosing an SKS carbine.

I would likely never be able to shoot longer than 200 yards, and that would be rare. I can access a 100 yard rifle range, but not very often. I have easy access to a 5- Star rated tactical range, but it is not 100 yards. The mini-Mauser has now bumped both my consideration of a pistol caliber lever action and the Scout Rifle for urban SHTF scenerios. With the right optics, it could be a very inexpensive scout rifle and low profile. 7.62x39 looks to be half the price of 5.45, and fairly inexpensive high quality surplus Bulgarian brass cased 7.62x39 can still be had. I think it is still corrosive, but a mini-Mauser bolt and barrel are easily cleaned. I just need to decide between a mini-Mauser and a Yugo SKS.

[JohnR]

You sure you don't work for Zastava sales? I'm wanting one more now.

[Streetkahr]

Bolt rifles

You sure you don't work for Zastava sales? I'm wanting one more now.

LOL! No, but if they were to give me one of their old AKs with the Teak wood stocks and a mint Yugo SKS, I would be willing to work for them. I would consider it a a hiring bonus.

[gb6491]

I'm a fan of the CZ527. Mine is in 7.62X39. The set trigger is very good, but it 's still nice when not set. My buddy actually likes to shoot it with the trigger not set. It's hard to argue with him on the matter as he shot what I think is the most "impressive" (though not smallest) group with it. He put three rounds on target, at two hundred yards from the prone (with the rifle resting on a rolled up blanket), that we could cover with a quarter. LOL, I'm still hearing about that.
FWIW, the scope on it is a Burris Fullfield II 2-7x 35mm.
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Here we go again, I was just looking at those this morning after I saw this thread.

That 7.62x39 makes a ton of sense, cheap to shoot, meaningful caliber and GB, that's a great looking rifle.

I think maybe you just need to send me a list of all your toys and I'll just check em off as I duplicate them at my house.

You've already done the homework and research, I'd just be reinventing the wheel ya know.

I love that.

[JohnR]

I can't find either a CZ or a Zastava in town, other than at Gouger Mountain (wrong caliber anyway). I'm kinda leaning toward the CZ now, as I know after the dust settles I won't even remember paying more for it. Looks like JG Sales has one of the best prices for them, too.

[JohnR]

I s'pose if I'm doing this for cheap ammo, I can get a .22 bolt rifle.

This CZ 455 is about the same price as the Zastava 7.62 http://www.jgsales.com/cz-455-traine...w.-p-2602.html

Zastava has a bolt .22 for about $170, but reviews are not good.

And the Ruger American Rimfire, which I thought seemed cheap, is even lower priced and accepts the BX25 and other 10/22 mags I already have. I wish it had a wood stock.

[berettabone]

A friend of mine just recently purchased a CZ 455...................I thought it was a very nice looking and feeling rifle. Very nice stock, and I like the front sight configuration and type. Seems like it would have very fast alignment, even though it's a plinker. Hope I get to shoot it in the future.............................

[TheTman]

If you have a bolt action .308 or 30-06, you can order a chamber adapter for $25.00 from http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm and convert an existing rifle to shoot the 7.62x39 round. I've been tempted to do this with a Spanish Mauser converted to .308, that I don't trust to stand up to modern commercial .308 rounds. But I have other things for the Russian ammo, so I don't have real need for another 7.62x39. If I feel the need to put the Spanish Mauser to use, I'll just handload some light loads for it. Some folks on other forums say that loading it to .300 Savage specs works well. It's pretty rough looking rifle, and would be a good knock around rifle for the 4x4 r a pickup. It was one of those bargain bin type of rifles, the wood was kind of crappy, but the action was nice and tight and the trigger was pretty good. I figured I could practice bubba-izing on it, and see how it turned out.

[JohnR]

I read a post elsewhere by someone with a similar quest. A respondent suggested he upgrade his 10/22 if he wants a more accurate .22 rifle, and that most people can't shoot as accurately as the rifle can, anyway. I can't argue with that. Except that by the time you spend the money upgrading a 10/22 you can buy a CZ 455. Then you have two nice rifles instead of one.

[Bawanna]

Good thinking. He with the most toys......................................

[Big Sexy]

I'm a rifle slut. Pistols and shotguns are waaaayyy down in 2nd and 3rd place as far as my firearms interest is concerned. I've got a LOT of rifles. I hunt a lot. I shoot a lot. I have a rifle for dang near any conceivable application you can imagine, from multiple brands, including custom rifles, in every action type.

So, I think I'm pretty qualified to speak on the subject and can provide some good advice on this project.

I'll say upfront that I am NOT a fan of CZ rifles, except for a couple of their rimfires.

First, what is your intended use for this rifle, John? Big game hunting? Small game/varmint hunting? Plinking? Precision shooting/ target? Safe queen?
Second, what is your budget?
Third, do you appreciate nice looking wood and blued steel, or do you want a utilitarian rifle that will receive and take some abuse and wet weather?
Fourth, do you currently reload or plan to in the near future?
Fifth, do you plan to buy a scope as well, or shoot iron sights?

Knowing the above will help narrow down the recommendations.