Nukes transferred from TX to SC???

[RevRay]

Tman, the real conspiracy is not the one you think you see, but the one that's behind the one you think you see ... and I'm not playing with words when I say this.

[Longitude Zero]

Tman, the real conspiracy is not the one you think you see, but the one that's behind the one you think you see ... and I'm not playing with words when I say this.

Exactly. It is called presdigitation aka sleight-of-hand aka magic.

[TheTman]

RevRay, I believe you. I find it fascinating how these conspiracy theories intertwine. I often start off researching one thing and end up somewhere totally different, like say I'm looking at Gun Control, The New World Order usually pops up somewhere, then you get into satan worshipping Illuminati and different things.
I'm pretty sure that our government is involved in some very wicked things, as far as their black budget ops go. We probably don't really want to know what all goes on in little out of the way spots.

LZ, that is exactly right, they dazzle you with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other.

[AIRret]

Nothing would surprising me anymore!

History will be the true test of these conspiracy theories. One day one or more WILL come to pass.

[muggsy]

RevRay, I believe you. I find it fascinating how these conspiracy theories intertwine. I often start off researching one thing and end up somewhere totally different, like say I'm looking at Gun Control, The New World Order usually pops up somewhere, then you get into satan worshipping Illuminati and different things.
I'm pretty sure that our government is involved in some very wicked things, as far as their black budget ops go. We probably don't really want to know what all goes on in little out of the way spots.

LZ, that is exactly right, they dazzle you with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other.

It all goes back to the Builderbergers, the Illuminati and ultimately the Masons. It a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma. Who knows what danger lurks. The Shadow knows.

[Longitude Zero]

The Masonic Organization has never bothered me and really is of no issue for much longer. Friends who are Masons tell me membership is down over 75% in our area over 20 years ago. Membership is getting so low that 4 lodges in my city are talking about consolidating to survive.

A never was a credible issue is about to become no issue 5-10 years from now.

[TheTman]

LOL, those damn groups, The Bilderbergers, and Illuminati, and Masons. They are behind everything. About any "good" conspiracy theory will have one of those 3 groups, or The New World Order, or the CIA/Black Ops behind it. Then there is the Council of Foreign Affairs, Tri Lateral Commission, and other groups I just throw in with the Bilderbergers or Illuminati. I lump all of the groups together under the "New World Order", my catchall phrase for all the groups of elites.
Plus, I believe in the Bible, so I like to see how things fit in with The prophecy books, and the Book of Revelations. Things will eventually go how God plans them, not as man does. People have thought the end times were upon them for hundreds of years. I guess the end of the 1st millennium scared the hell out of people thinking that time was up. Some thought the same when Y2K rolled around. Some are expecting the end times to begin very soon. Others say it will be soon, but several things have to be done first, so it will be years away at the least. I don't worry about it much, when he comes he'll come, and you'll either be ready or you won't. It's best to be ready all the time, if you're a believer. If not it's all just a fairy tale and never going to happen anyway, so why worry.
I do kind of see perhaps what may be the beginning of setting of the stage of the Battle of Armageddon, with all the activity going on over Syria, with Russian, Chinese, and US ships and forces converging on the area. But I also see it as very, very early still, so there will be plenty of chances for things to cool down, before it escalates. We could play a big part, by just keeping our noses out of Syria, and let them whack each other all they want.

[TheTman]

You're right about the membership of the Masons falling dramatically. It's just not the type of thing that appeals to our younger people anymore. All the lodges are declining in membership, Elks, Lions, Rotary, all those types of organizations are taking big hits. I think their seen as "old fart" type of organizations, and people just aren't attracted to them these days.
I was a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason, and Shriner, but quit the Shrine after I quit drinking. So many of their activities involve drinking, that it's just not fun to be a Shriner when you are sober. It gets irritating being sober in a room full of "glowing" people. I also dropped out of the Masons too. And am going to burn my apron to symbolically sever my ties with the organization. Mostly because of Albert Pikes Luciferianism. I don't want to have anything to do with that.

[Longitude Zero]

You're right about the membership of the Masons falling dramatically. It's just not the type of thing that appeals to our younger people anymore. All the lodges are declining in membership, Elks, Lions, Rotary, all those types of organizations are taking big hits. I think their seen as "old fart" type of organizations, and people just aren't attracted to them these days.
I was a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason, and Shriner, but quit the Shrine after I quit drinking. So many of their activities involve drinking, that it's just not fun to be a Shriner when you are sober. It gets irritating being sober in a room full of "glowing" people. I also dropped out of the Masons too. And am going to burn my apron to symbolically sever my ties with the organization. Mostly because of Albert Pikes Luciferianism. I don't want to have anything to do with that.

Seeing the same thing locally with all fraternal organizations. The Elks, Rotary, and Moose Lodge type organizations died out here years ago. I have not seen any of them at all. In fact several of their lodge locations have been sold and bulldozed.

[TheTman]

The younger men just aren't drawn to these organizations anymore, they look at iti as something their Dad or Grandpa went, and they are too hip to join some musty old lodge.
Many or the lodges are segregated too, and some won't join because of that.
We have separate Masonic organizations for the White people and the Black People.
Prince Hall Masonry is the Black Branch. We were ruled by the Southern Jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge, I'm not sure if the Northern Jurisdiction is segregated.

I really thought I was getting into something when I became a Mason, with all it's history, and the big part Mason's played in the Revolution. Most of Washingtons most trusted Generals and Aides were Mason's.
I think lodges were more popular in the past, just for something to do. Back before TV and Radio there wasn't much to do at home, besides read a book or something, so they were a way to get out of the house and do something.
The Blue Lodge (the degrees up to Master Mason) is really boring to go too. They have a ritual opening and closing. In between they discuss business, and the highlight of the evening is usually the dinner before the meeting. So most people hurry through the first 32 degrees, and get into the Shrine, where they have all the fun. Every Degree has a pretty gruesome oath that you take, to not reveal any Masonic secrets, but you can find most of the oaths on the internet now.
I would hate to see the Shrine fold, since they do so much work with burned and crippled children, at no charge. But I don't know how much longer they will be around.

[Longitude Zero]

Several friends at work have tried to recruit me but I am too busy and frankly not interested. I was told that now you can go from the Blue Lodge to 32 Degree in one night as they have vastly shortened and streamlined to process.

Here in OK you only have the Scottish Rite and York Rite. The Scottish Rite Temple in Guthrie is OK is about an hours drive from home. Agreed on the hospital issue. When the Grand Lodge of OK closed the nursing home in Guthrie it really sent a shockwave thru the community.

[muggsy]

An organization is only as good as the people who are in it. Most of these organizations were started to do good works. Alcohol has caused them to stray. I personally would not join any organization that would have me as a member.

[tx_native]

Alex Jones is being proven right more and more every day. He does go overboard with his enthusiasm, but people are starting to see the truth of what he says. I'd be interested to hear what he has said that is untrue or just plain fantasy. His 9/11 theory is a stretch, but there are a lot of holes in the official government explanation. The global bankers do run the country. Where is he wrong?

He is a heck of a lot more credible than WND.com. They dont have any proof on anything they report.

[Longitude Zero]

IHMO Alex Jones has less credibility than Jesse Ventura. Which is not saying much as JV is below zero in credibility. IMHO AJ has been proven totally correct maybe once or twice.

As to WND I agree but AJ is not better. His proof is nothing more than words outta his mouth. I have never seen any proof that I can hold in my hand of what he calls reporting.

[tx_native]

It all goes back to the Builderbergers, the Illuminati and ultimately the Masons. It a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma. Who knows what danger lurks. The Shadow knows.

I agree. Its amazing how many people have no idea that these groups exist. Most of the people that do find out about these groups think they are harmless. They may start out that way but when you get the most powerful people in the world together in one location, discussions begin to take place about how this world could be a better place if... And the if usually includes more control and more wealth for the people at those meetings. Al Gore and global warming.