The 3 stages of Jihad: Key to understanding Islam

[knkali]

So, what are your views on this subject? Are you for a muslim/islam takeover?

My views?
1) I don't believe everything I read or hear (unless it comes from Bawanna) and I do not extrapolate everything that Muslim extremists do or say as if it represents every Muslim
2) Islam is the 2nd largest religion in the world. That is a lot of people. I don't have the capacity for that much hate.
3) I reserve hate for individuals only because it is a strong emotion and can make you do things you cannot take back.
4) I do believe hate can hurt the hater as much as the one being hated.
5) Everyone will probably be hated at some point in time so don't forget your time will come too.
6) I believe in the Golden Rule
7) I think we should leave the Middle East the hell alone when it comes to U.S actions--political/military/economic.
8)I think the Muslim extremists are getting the upper hand because they know how hate can divide and distract us.

Do I want a Muslim/Islam takeover? I don't know what that really means. Do I feel that the religion of Islam will be the predominate religion in the U.S? NO I don't think that is a remote possibility.

Finally, I think I know when I am outnumbered and should shut the fokk up. I am available by PM regarding this further if so inclined. Also, I think I am going to give the politics forum a rest for spell and look at some of the other sub forums that I have never really looked at.

[knkali]

knkali, you would have a point, were it not for the evidence presented around the world on a daily basis, that Islam is not a peaceful religion, unless they are with other Muslims, or in the minority. They have proven time and time again, that they will tolerate no other faiths, when they are in power. How many Christians do they have to kill before you see this? Egypt and Syria both had thousands of Christians, that lived peacefully with their Muslim neighbors, under the secular governments of Mubarak and Assad, but in both countries, now rebels kill them as a duty to Allah.
They hate us non-muslims, and consider it their duty to kill or convert us.
There are parts of Europe that the Police and Firefighters won't go into anymore because it's under "Sharia Law" and they will get attacked.
The guy in the video didn't contradict anything that I'd heard before, and some of the stuff I had heard several times by various people, including former Muslims.
I've heard former Muslims talking about the goal to take over Europe, and eventually the United States.
Blind prejudice is one thing, but when you have a group out to eventually change your way of life, and possibly offer you the choice of changing religions or lose your head, I'm not sure that is paranoia, I'd call it keeping an eye on a potential trouble spot.

We ignored the communists, and under the guise of progressives, they have infiltrated every major branch of Government, and are steering this country on a course to communism and tyranny. They've taken over the education system, and teach garbage to our kids. They get in control of agencies like the EPA and OSHA and make life miserable for people. The Muslims are doing the same, reaching some very high federal offices, but I think a lot of that is due to their comrade in the Whitehouse.

My sister-in-law is from England, and after a visit, they have some pretty interesting stories, about how the Muslims are practically running many parts of the country.
Places they can't visit anymore because it's a Muslim community or establishment now. And they've used that "victim" card to their greatest advantage, and England being England, gives them everything, housing, money, food. And they repay it by chopping off people's heads and blowing up train stations. My sister-in-law's brother and sister hate it over there, between the young thugs and the Muslims, they feel threatened when they go out. They are older and not able to defend themselves, and of course if you do defend yourself say with a cricket bat or golf club something, you get whisked off to jail. And they treat the thug like he was a little angel, and take him to the hospital and fix him up, and then he sues you. It's totally screwed up over there.

Before my tenure ends on this sub forum, I want to answer you because you posted as I was writing a response to another poster. I understand your point(s) and thank you for your tempered response to a very emotional subject. However, England gave us Pierce Moron so I can understand how messed up it can get there. This is an attempt of bringing some jocularity( not you Jocko) to this thread--sorry. However, we have that same push and pull with groups here--be it either racial or socioeconomic. There are countless threads on this forum of certain groups being perceived as claiming the victim card and the establishment being perceived as kowtowing to them and large parts of cities not safe to be in. So the same stuff, just different names is all. Doesn't make any of it right. It just isn't a Muslim thing.

We ignored communists? How? There was the Cold War, Viet Nam, Korea, Mc McCarthyism, Cuba. I think we fought communism as well as we could. It isn't the communists that are the problem. Instead what you blame the communists for is a home grown mind set that developed from very good intentioned people in this country that has had long term detrimental consequences that are recently coming to light in a big way.

Now if you want to focus on extremists, then we will find some congruency in thought. However, I do not like extremists of any flavor and our system of self governing is set up to not like that either.

[TheTman]

knkali, I hope things are cool.
Yes, we've let the communists in. They're called the progressive wing of the Democratic party, and like to go by the term Progressives. After McCarthyism, you were labeled a crackpot if you called someone a communist, so they were able to get away with a lot after that and right up until the present. No one took communism seriously, and it attracted some followers. Much of the anti Viet Nam crap was organized by people with communist connections.
Look in the Whitehouse, the man was raised and nurtured by communists, his career was launched by Communist Bill Ayers.
There is a Communist political party. I don't know how many members it has. They always run a candidate for President in my state, but mostly they like being Progressive Democrats. They get a lot more votes that way.


And to Sage, What can you do? When they have such a good buddy in the Whitehouse not much you can do except keep an eye on them. I'd rather know all this, than be unaware of it. Maybe we can learn from Europe and keep it from happening here.

[yqtszhj]

I agree with what Rev Ray said.

As someone once said, I think it's about time for some cowboys and muslims.

I remember that one. It was a good one. If someone can revive it I think it's worth a repost.

[Gray_Rider]

It is coming boys and girls. This "Religon of Peace" should be treated as what it is.

They won't stop till they are forced to stop at the point of a gun. See history's example.

That this "religon" should be tolerated anywhere in the free world after 9-11 and the countless attacks mounted against anyone non muslim outside their own enclaves in the middle east, is foolery squared.

The treachery of our government against it's own people is fair warning of what's to come.

You have been fairly and urgently warned.

Gray_Rider
Deo Vindice!
We warned you in 1862!

[muggsy]

As Hitler corrupted Christianity, so have Muslim extremists corrupted the Muslim religion. There is good and bad in everything. Kankali's problem is that he is too, cerebral for most on this board. He is far too, eager to think than to make broad accusation against something that he doesn't fully understand. Onward Christian soldiers marching as to war. The war is older than the Bible

[muggsy]

There are approximately 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. About 23% of the worlds population. If we are going to kill them all we better start today. Then we can start on the Hindus and Buddhists.