New Conspiracy Theories to make fun of.

[TheTman]

Well I have a reputation to uphold, so here are some Conspiracy Theories for you. As I have said repeatedly, the point is not to swallow the whole thing hook, line and sinker, but see if there are any grains of truth in them. That's hard to do when you just dismiss things as bullsh!t, without watching them and analyzing them. Ask yourself, who gains anything and what are they gaining, either by the acts, or by the person making the video. Who gains by the mass shootings? The gun control movement, and those who could gain power by disarming the population. Who could gain power by an unarmed population? Big Government, The global financiers that pull the strings on their puppets in high offices. The people that want to create a one world government and religion.
Who gains by putting out these videos? I guess the video maker gets some amount of publicity. They sow seeds of distrust of the government.

These talk about the same old crap about mass shootings being false flags. They are about the Kenyan Mall, and the Naval Yard shootings.
Someone sent the links to me, I wasn't even looking at YouTube this morning. Each has a few points that may make you question the official stories.

Kenyan Mall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=uF3__60KNMI

Naval Yard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=K1w1ACJVjXU

[JohnR]

I keep hearing about how that Build a Bear Workshop group (your "international financiers") is behind the new world order stuff and that they got 0bama and most of the last six presidents in office because he was so easy to manipulate.

[TheTman]

No, it's the Build-a-Burgers, might be run by the same outfit though.
Try their Bacon Pepper Jack Cheese burger, it's awesome.

[muggsy]

Well I have a reputation to uphold, so here are some Conspiracy Theories for you. As I have said repeatedly, the point is not to swallow the whole thing hook, line and sinker, but see if there are any grains of truth in them. That's hard to do when you just dismiss things as bullsh!t, without watching them and analyzing them. Ask yourself, who gains anything and what are they gaining, either by the acts, or by the person making the video. Who gains by the mass shootings? The gun control movement, and those who could gain power by disarming the population. Who could gain power by an unarmed population? Big Government, The global financiers that pull the strings on their puppets in high offices. The people that want to create a one world government and religion.
Who gains by putting out these videos? I guess the video maker gets some amount of publicity. They sow seeds of distrust of the government.

These talk about the same old crap about mass shootings being false flags. They are about the Kenyan Mall, and the Naval Yard shootings.
Someone sent the links to me, I wasn't even looking at YouTube this morning. Each has a few points that may make you question the official stories.

Kenyan Mall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=uF3__60KNMI

Naval Yard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=K1w1ACJVjXU

There are grains of truth in every conspiracy theory. That what makes them believable to some. Mostly those on the lunatic fringe. I'm not saying that you are a lunatic, but if men in white coats come to your house, run!

[muggsy]

Pictures from the mall shooting. Still think it a fake? You do understand that posters on you tube are paid by how many views they receive.

http://www.ibtimes.com/nairobi-mall-...photos-1409392

http://totallycoolpix.com/2013/09/gr...ings-in-kenya/

[TheTman]

Muggsy, I put those up for people to make fun of. People talking crap about things they know nothing about. These are one that the grains of truth, particularly the Kenya Mall one, just don't make sense. I guess I should have made myself clearer.

The Naval Yard video makes a little better case, That's one I'd file away under "slight possibility", because of the lack of information from other sources, very few interviews of survivors, no interviews of anyone wounded that I could find.
But we do have a surveillance tape of the shooter walking through the building with the shotgun. That could be real, or it could have easily been faked.

You did good Muggs, you investigated, found pictures that show the Kenya Mall video was full of crap. That there were dead bodies scattered around the mall.
And what does a shooting in Africa, have to do with Gun Control in the USA?
Not much, except maybe to bolster the idea that guns are evil or something.

I am a bit crazy, aren't we all? If you don't admit you're crazy, that means you are crazy, according to Catch 22. I'm not quite ready for a white coat and rubber room. But I'd go in a heartbeat if they'd put Obama in it with me!
And you are crazy talking about giving them the bullets first when they come for your guns. How long do you think you're going to last against a SWAT team, or whoever they send? You had better have a better plan than that. Well, unless you want to go out in a blaze of glory and hopefully take a few with you, which might not be that bad. Probably better than going to a FEMA camp. Or wherever they are going to put us "Terrorists". Better dead than red (communist) was the old saying.

Something is going on, why is the DHS arming it's self to the teeth, and ordering all the mine resistant vehicles. The collapse of the Petro Dollar will have a huge impact on our economy. You can find a lot of information about this, and various predictions on what will happen. Right now countries have to buy our dollars to pay for their oil. This came from an agreement back in the 70's that we would provide defense for Saudi Arabia, and the OPEC countries, in exchange they would only accept dollars as payment for the oil they sold. This arrangement has kept countries buying our dollars to purchase oil. When OPEC thinks this is no longer to their advantage, they will begin accepting other currencies, which Iran is already doing. Then our economy is going to take a big hit. That 16 TRILLION dollar debt is going to come crashing down on us pretty hard. The thing is, experts say we have enough oil in the shale fields to last us at least a hundred years, and we actually have more oil than Saudi Arabia, if the environmentalists will let us extract it. And we could actually become an oil exporter. Capturing the natural gas that comes out with the oil, liquefying it, and exporting it would also help the economy, but I think we only have one plant capable of doing this, when we need at least a dozen or so. And tankers capable of transporting it to Europe. But the tree huggers are crying that the fracking to get the oil out is dangerous, and will ruin the environment, cause earthquakes, and all sorts of calamities. Take the video of the guy that turns on his garden hose and lights it and flames shoot out "proving that natural gas from fracking is getting into the water supply, what they don't show is he has the other end of the hose attached to a propane bottle. And then we have XL pipeline, that will bring tons of oil down to the refineries, and create thousands of jobs, but it MIGHT leak, and ruin the environment. I hate to break the news to the tree huggers, but there are already quite a few oil pipelines criss crossing the area the XL pipeline would be routed through. The same crap they argued to try and stop the Alaskan pipeline from being built. I think the only time that has leaked was when a hunter shot it and put a hole in it. Anyway, if we would develop these resources, we'll be in a lot better shape to make it through the Petro Dollar's demise. I'm pretty sure countries would take our excess oil, as payment on our debt.
In the meantime, we should continue to look at alternate sources of power.
Tesla was able to extract electricity from the atmosphere, that would be free, but his financial backers didn't want that, they were backing him to invent a way to transmit electrical signals to ships at sea, both for power and communications. Marconi took Tesla's work and developed the radio, and the backers abandoned the effort to transmit power to the ships at sea.
The backers were violently opposed to this free energy from the atmosphere idea, they wanted to be able to sell the electricity that was generated in the power plants, and they destroyed his laboratory. Once again greed won out over the good of the people.
Some folks are researching how Tesla did this, and are coming pretty close to figuring it out. Using the electricity that naturally occurs in the atmosphere, that is wasted by lighting. One scientist says it has something to do with space being at absolute zero, some 400 + degrees below zero, and our atmosphere being much warmer, and that creates and stores energy. If we can figure out how to tap into it, then our energy problems would be solved. Of course the big power companies will try and stop it, just as they did to Tesla. A lot of money would be lost if a new source of free electricity was discovered that people could tap into with an antenna.

[JohnR]

I got one for you.

The Dems let the government shut down. A few days go by, the media shows all the lies and distorted sob stories about people who can't visit national parks and useless bureaucrats paid in IOUs.

Then the Dems go to the Republicans in a closed door meeting and say, "We got a deal for you. We will vote to pass your continuing resolution that defunds Obamacare, and the president will sign it. But you will help the Senate ratify the UN small arms treaty. If you don't take the deal, you will be blamed for the shutdown and civil unrest as the welfare recipients start to get hungry. If you welch on the deal, your candidates will be smeared and trashed like Cruz is right now. You will never win another election, and we'll end up ratifying the treaty anyway. Your move."

The Republicans leave the meeting pale and covered in sweat, and cave to every demand.

[JohnR]

Tman, I've always thought creating a centrally organized power grid that made every household dependent on a wire and a monthly bill was the single biggest step away from freedom we've experienced. If there was a way to do what Tesla claimed and each house generate its own electricity like we cook our food, life today would be something different!

[TheTman]

I can see something like that happening. Back door deals are made all the time. I wish the Republican leadership would grow some cajones, get rid of the RINO's and stick to their guns. Unfortunately, like you say, the media will blame everything on the Republicans, and the TEA party. I don't have cable TV and don't watch TV much anyway. The only mainstream news I get is ABC, CBS, and NBC, and I don't watch them much. If I want the left wing view I can go to Moveon.org and plenty of other websites. So I really don't have any idea what they are saying about Cruz. The major networks news seems to be always reporting the liberal view, (it's funny, but I hear libs, talking about how right slanted the news is). Didn't they try to smear Rand Paul after his filibuster? And now he it seems he is more popular than ever among conservatives, even talking him up as a potential candidate for president in 2016, while you have Nancy Pelosi and her ilk talking crap about the "TEA party tail" wagging the Republican dog. To hear them talk you'd think the TEA party was some giant organization behind every evil in America, the racist homophobes.
Maybe they should fund Obamacare, and give people a taste of what it is going to do to the country. The more jobs that are lost, or cut back to part time, the more people are going to be against it and vote for candidates that will get rid of it. People will actually experience the nightmare, and see it's not all that it is cracked up to be. The thing is, if they do let it be implemented, how difficult will it be to get rid of it.
I hate to see that happen, but I don't know what the best option for the long term will be. I wonder how they will keep people out of the parks? Armed guards at the gates? Summer vacation time is over for most people, so how many are really going to be affected by not being allowed in the parks? Probably mostly retirees. But I'm sure the MSM will make the most out of it, and have all kinds of exaggerated stories to report. They probably already have them written. All they need are some actors and a film crew.
Wasn't it Mark Twain that said the 2 things you never want to see are the making of sausage, and the making of laws. I bet that is more true now than ever, the making laws part anyway.
I was just reading about what effect a government shutdown would have, and it doesn't seem to be all that bad, Social Security checks will still go out, I assume that would include Welfare payments so no one will be going hungry. Essential services will continue, the Military will continue to function, although civilian workers would be furloughed, in the military and elsewhere.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98S0JX20130929

[muggsy]

Tman, I don't consider myself crazy. A bit off balance at times, but never crazy. I don't want my guns taken from me.

P.S. There are 313 million of us. Only a small percentage of the population represents the government. I think that I could hold out for a reasonable amount of time if my brothers in arms support me. And if I did die, I would die free just like some of my forefathers. No one lives forever.

[TheTman]

You betcha Muggs, you going to need a group of people to fight what they would throw at us if that sad day were ever to happen. And I think I would rather die than live in a FEMA camp, or wherever they put us, as we'll be considered terrorists. I wouldn't be surprised if even if they did somehow take us alive, that they'd go ahead and put a bullet in our heads, since by that time, we would surely be under Martial law, with many "terrorist" groups fighting resist the tyranny. It would be a lot easier to just kill people then haul them off to some compound.

Katrina was a big wake up call. I couldn't believe the how enthusiastic the troops were in disarming the population. They were very ready to shoot to kill, and some of them acted like they hoped they got the opportunity to put a bullet in someone. I'll always remember how that one 67 year old lady didn't want to leave her house, and showed the troops she had a small revolver for her protection, not pointing it at anyone, just showing she was armed, and a guy twice her size jumps on her and knocks her to the floor and took the pistol away from her. Breaking one of her teeth, giving her a black eye, and cracking her shoulder in 3 places in the process. Any one could have walked up to her, grabbed her wrist and taken the pistol, they didn't have to go all Rambo on her. The gun wasn't even loaded. That was a preview of how things would go when they start the gun-grab, except that is probably much milder than what will happen under martial law.
And the govt. thugs used the same excuse the Nazi's did, I was only following orders.

If their property was high and dry, why were they forcing people out? More nanny state crap of doing it for their own good. The water was contaminated, big deal, you can boil it before you cook with it or drink it. Might not want to bathe in it, but you could boil plenty of water enough for a spit bath at least, or boil several pots and pour it in the bath tub for a bath. Hell, we did that till I was 5 or 6, and we finally got indoor plumbing with a shower.
Maybe it was the powers that be wanted to flex their muscles a little.
I never imagined that I would ever see things like that happening in America.
Looked a lot more like something from Russia, or some other dictatorship.
The worse part is, they were only disarming the law abiding citizens, the criminals and looters were smarter than to sit around and wait of cops to come to their door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHkR2KaTLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M

[muggsy]

Tesla didn't have a method for taking electricity from the air, but the did have an idea on how to transmit electrical power without wires like radio waves. He died before he could bring his dream to fruition and his idea died with him. There are all kinds of conspiracy theories, but the majority of them are bullsquat. I used to follow them for their entertainment value during those long days at sea, but I learned long ago that three people can only keep a secret if two of them are dead and the third keeps his mouth shut. Not many can keep their mouth shut. I do believe that Obama got into office through lies and deception, but that isn't a theory. That's a fact.

[TheTman]

There are reports that he did crate a method to transmit electricity through the air. There is a stories that he was able to power 200 light bulbs and an electric motor from 26 miles away from his tower near Colorado Springs with his transmitted electricity. May be BS, maybe not. There is so much written about him it's hard to wade through what is real and what is crap.
He built a tower near Wardenclyffe Long Island to transmit electrical power to homes, but his backers pulled out when they realized they could not keep people from tapping into the electricity without a meter. If they couldn't make money from it, they didn't want anything to do with it.
Several scientists are engaging in recovering electricity from the atmosphere, and credit Tesla for the basic research and idea. Wikipedia says he was engaged in research to pull electricity out of the air. How far he got, I don't know. I don't know if anyone knows, since he didn't keep very good notes, and didn't write down much of what he was working on, I guess he preferred to keep the knowledge in his head.

Neither of us were there, so neither of us can say exactly what he was working on.
All we have are the stories from the day.

As far as Obama getting into office, you left out voter fraud, and possibly rigged voting machines. They say any state with Voter ID went to Romney, and those without any voter ID went to Obama, with some districts reporting thing like 110% of the eligible votes going to Obama. Something is going on in those districts, you'd think at least a few people would vote for Romney, if only by mistake.
I'd like to see the voting machines done away with, and go back to paper ballots, since voting machines are computers, and computers can be programmed to produce whatever results the people in control of them want. I also wonder how many military votes "got lost" or were not counted from our troops stationed overseas.