42% Obama 42% Tea Party

[Bawanna]

Thanks muggsy!


Bawanna, I agree ... but it needs to go a different direction. GOP establishment needs to be DUMPED in favor of the Constitution. If we loose, we loose. Let the liberal/progressives implode the whole damn shooting match. Enough. But in order to get thing to return to the way they should work, you are talking undoing 100+ years of stupidity and the establishment is not gonna do it (GOP Rinos and Democrats). They like their money and power. So, gotta stand by my principles no matter what. I will never again vote for the likes of what the GOP has been floating for the last couple of decades. Never. Never. Never. The way things SHOULD work do not include Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Social Security, DHS, IRS, EPA, Dept of Education, yadda yadda. Until those and a pile of others are gone, I'm done w/ the GOP in its establishment form...if that whacks my nose to spite my face, so be it!

Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security aren't a bad thing if they run them the way they were designed. In other words if you paid in you can get paid out. If you just came across the border you don't get paid out no way no how.

The rest I agree with. Nothing will change or even begin to change until we get something else in office. We can't do the whole thing in one shot, we gotta take it one bite at a time.

Continue to split the opposite side of the Dems, whatever that may be and they will continue and things will stay status quo.

Be nice to start completely fresh with all new Senate and Congress, every last one so there are no bad apples to teach the new folks how to make it pay and be easy street but that ain't gonna happen. I've spent too much time on the Politics arena today, I'm gonna go wander around someplace else. Maybe go back and watch the guy walk into the door a few more times.

[chrish]

Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security aren't a bad thing if they run them the way they were designed. In other words if you paid in you can get paid out.

Ahhhhh. But that was never the intention. There wasn't enough time between the beginning of the taxation for those programs and the beginning of the pay out to build it up to keep up w/ itself. Look at the retirement age and when you can collect. They keep hiking it up and life expectancy isn't the reason, lack of money is the reason.


What they said and what they knew up front would be the case are two different things. Those programs were never sustainable, just like Obamacare, and they KNEW it.


People need to stop believing the government is there as a financial safety net. They can't do it. They aren't designed to do it. They consume. They create nothing. Nothing in the Constitution can be construed to allow for these type of programs. They are counter to everything in the Constitution.

[muggsy]

Just to clarify I'm probably a Tea Partier myself, but in order to win and get to work returning things to the way they should be we have to draw a line.

Democrat and Everything else. If we have a Democrat option, a Republican Option and a Tea Party option or a Tea party who doesn't endorse and vote for the Republican option then the Democrat wins. Every time.

It doesn't make sense to elect republicans who vote with the democrats. We might just as well elect democrats and not have to listen to the debates. I'd much sooner vote for a conservative democrat than a RINO republican. The only problem being that there are no conservative democrats. Hell, it's tough to find a moderate democrat. All of them are flaming liberal Marxist socialists.