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    I think that most LEO's prefer that you stay in your car when they stop you. Just wait a bit and they will come to you. Keep your hands in plain sight, on the top of the steering wheel seems to be a good place, as then they can see your hands as they approach your vehicle.
    Otherwise if you get out, they don't know what to expect. The video below shows an older man getting stopped, and he got out of his vehicle, and reached back inside to get his cane. It being dark, all the officer could see was a long straight object that he thought was a shotgun, and opened fire on the man. Fortunately he wasn't seriously injured, but if stopped, stay in the car, and certainly don't get out then reach back in for something. The cop has no idea what you are going to pull out of the car, and is probably nervous already because you are out of the car.
    I don't blame the Officer one bit for opening fire on the man. It was dark, and it looked like he was pulling out a shotgun to him. If the man had stayed in his vehicle, none of this would have happened. The article questions training procedures, but I don't think training has anything to do with this.
    The Officer saw what he thought was a shotgun and took appropriate action to avoid being shot at. He immediately rushed to the man's aid and got an ambulance on the way. And the man is expected to be ok.
    Accidents like this can be avoided using some common sense, and doing as you are asked. I always hand over my CC permit with my license so the Officer knows I may be armed, and if so, I tell him where my pistol is, and they ask that I not reach for that area. No problem. I usually keep my pistol in the center console while driving, and my registration and insurance card is in my glove box, so I have no reason to get into the console where the gun is.


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    thanks for posting. It shows that shooting someone is never a good thing and the fine edge LEO's walk every day. I couldn't do their job.
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    • #3
      And here is what happens when a proper search is not done....

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      • #4
        Wow, that is some graphic video there Jeepster. I've seen much worse in movies, but you know it's all fake. The genuine thing really gets to you.
        I can't believe some groups are accusing the police of giving him the gun so he could kill himself. That is insane. I'm happily surprised he didn't shoot any of the police before taking himself out.
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        • #5
          wow fuukn wow. didn't die a quick as many think. Sad.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheTman View Post
            I think that most LEO's prefer that you stay in your car when they stop you. Just wait a bit and they will come to you. Keep your hands in plain sight, on the top of the steering wheel seems to be a good place, as then they can see your hands as they approach your vehicle.
            Otherwise if you get out, they don't know what to expect. The video below shows an older man getting stopped, and he got out of his vehicle, and reached back inside to get his cane. It being dark, all the officer could see was a long straight object that he thought was a shotgun, and opened fire on the man. Fortunately he wasn't seriously injured, but if stopped, stay in the car, and certainly don't get out then reach back in for something. The cop has no idea what you are going to pull out of the car, and is probably nervous already because you are out of the car.
            I don't blame the Officer one bit for opening fire on the man. It was dark, and it looked like he was pulling out a shotgun to him. If the man had stayed in his vehicle, none of this would have happened. The article questions training procedures, but I don't think training has anything to do with this.
            The Officer saw what he thought was a shotgun and took appropriate action to avoid being shot at. He immediately rushed to the man's aid and got an ambulance on the way. And the man is expected to be ok.
            Accidents like this can be avoided using some common sense, and doing as you are asked. I always hand over my CC permit with my license so the Officer knows I may be armed, and if so, I tell him where my pistol is, and they ask that I not reach for that area. No problem. I usually keep my pistol in the center console while driving, and my registration and insurance card is in my glove box, so I have no reason to get into the console where the gun is.


            http://bearingarms.com/innocent-man-...ining-failure/

            And then the Mrs. gets out and comes up behind the officer. These folks are lucky to be alive.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheTman View Post
              Wow, that is some graphic video there Jeepster. I've seen much worse in movies, but you know it's all fake. The genuine thing really gets to you.
              I can't believe some groups are accusing the police of giving him the gun so he could kill himself. That is insane. I'm happily surprised he didn't shoot any of the police before taking himself out.
              That video is actually used by law enforcement for training. According to my daughter[a deputy sheriff] she was told the officer in the picture was severly disciplined for failing to do proper search when booking man into lockup. He put many into jeopordy of their life by not doing proper search.
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              • #8
                Stay in the car...Do no move around...At night turn your dome/interior light on...Put both hands on top of the steering wheel...Be polite.
                Wake Up...Grow Up...Show Up...Sit Up...Shut Up...Listen Up

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by knkali View Post
                  wow fuukn wow. didn't die a quick as many think. Sad.
                  He was dead almost instantly. Those were reflex actions that you saw in the video.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                    He was dead almost instantly. Those were reflex actions that you saw in the video.


                    Yep, and dead people don't have ANY reflexes 100% of the time but the inverse of that statement is never 100%
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                    • #11
                      My luck I'd do that and end up a derelict in a wheelchair. Oh wait, I am a derelict in a wheelchair? Nothing to lose I guess.
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                      • #12
                        It was a well-aimed shot.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                          My luck I'd do that and end up a derelict in a wheelchair. Oh wait, I am a derelict in a wheelchair? Nothing to lose I guess.
                          Duude................
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                          • #14
                            This was a case of bad police work followed by more bad police work. Several of these LEOs should not be carrying a badge. Lots of really shocking examples of over-eager cops this year.

                            Local news said the old man was hit once and will survive. Good thing this Goober couldn't shoot worth a damn.
                            Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ripley16 View Post
                              This was a case of bad police work followed by more bad police work. Several of these LEOs should not be carrying a badge. Lots of really shocking examples of over-eager cops this year.

                              Local news said the old man was hit once and will survive. Good thing this Goober couldn't shoot worth a damn.

                              Other than a keyboard what makes you an expert on what is and is not good or bad police work? Did you watch an episode of Miami Vice last night? I am not necessarily defending the officer but you call out is uncalled for and inappropriate.
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