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    Beware The Useful Idiots

    Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......
    Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

    Saul Alinsky
    Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca.
    Education: University of Chicago
    Spouse: Irene Alinsky
    Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

    Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S.?
    All eight rules are currently in play.

    How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

    There are eight levels of controlthat must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

    1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.

    2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

    3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

    4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

    6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

    7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

    8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

    Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

    Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as'Useful Idiots'. The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

    If people can read this and still say everything is just fine… they are 'useful idiots'.

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  • #2
    He got it from the Frankfurt School marxists.

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    • #3
      Interestingly, Saul Alinsky was not a socialist nor a Marxist or belong to any political party that I am aware of. I am not sure why you say he started our troubles. He outlined what needs to happen. He didn't make it happen.


      Great post Downtown and a scary one at that!!!!
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      • #4
        Hillary Calls For Gun Control

        Originally posted by knkali View Post
        Interestingly, Saul Alinsky was not a socialist nor a Marxist or belong to any political party that I am aware of. I am not sure why you say he started our troubles. He outlined what needs to happen. He didn't make it happen.


        Great post Downtown and a scary one at that!!!!
        We'll his theories are what you get from these Pop Tarts

        Hillary Calls For Gun Control

        May 6, 2014 by Personal Liberty News Desk
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        Hillary Clinton, wife of the President who signed the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act into law in 1994, made it known in plain language today that her feelings toward gun control haven’t changed over the past 20 years.
        Speaking at a conference for the National Council for Behavioral Health in Washington, D.C., Clinton said it’s a fallacy to think that “anybody anywhere” has the right to bear arms.
        “We’re way out of balance,” said Clinton. “We have to rein in what has almost become an article of faith that anybody anywhere can own a gun.” She further reinforced her remarks by citing permissive laws in some States and cities that allow people to carry firearms in businesses and on the campuses of schools – although she didn’t mention the correlation between “gun-free” cities or restricted-carry areas and increased incidences of violent crimes involving firearms.

        See #4-Above
        Last edited by downtownv; 05-07-2014, 05:04 AM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by knkali View Post
          Interestingly, Saul Alinsky was not a socialist nor a Marxist or belong to any political party that I am aware of. I am not sure why you say he started our troubles. He outlined what needs to happen. He didn't make it happen.


          Great post Downtown and a scary one at that!!!!
          He provided the road map for those who wanted to bring our country down. He started wheels turning. Those who follow that map should be purged from society.
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          • #6
            Problems started well before Mr Alinsky. Turn of last century and into the 20s. Teddy, Woodrow, Theodore. We seem to be able to destroy from within just fine, don't need much help from outsiders.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by muggsy View Post
              He provided the road map for those who wanted to bring our country down. He started wheels turning. Those who follow that map should be purged from society.


              Agreed. Those who FOLLOW should be purged(sic). Outlining how to do it(Alinsky) helps us recognize when it is happening.
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              • #8
                Saul did not really start anything new. Al he did was coalesce a bunch of previous writing/thoughts into his philosophy of disaster.
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                • #9
                  I read somewhere that Alinsky and Obama, and some other libtards, formed something they called the "New" party, for socialist types, as the socialist wing of the DimocRAT party.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheTman View Post
                    I read somewhere that Alinsky and Obama, and some other libtards, formed something they called the "New" party, for socialist types, as the socialist wing of the DimocRAT party.
                    Nope, Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago.
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                    • #11
                      Saul Alinsky was a socialist whether he declared that status or not.
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                      • #12
                        Obama was a member of the New Party, which at the time was indeed Socialist. He ran for State Senate in '97 as a New Party candidate.

                        http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-stanley-kurtz

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                          Saul Alinsky was a socialist whether he declared that status or not.



                          Muggs, please consider the following FWIW( quickly grabbed this from a net source):

                          Alinsky did not join political parties. When asked during an interview whether he ever considered becoming a Communist party member, he replied:
                          "Not at any time. I've never joined any organization—not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by knkali View Post
                            "Not at any time. I've never joined any organization—not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide"


                            What an utter load of crap. Talk about painting with a wide brush. Perfect example of a self-reflecting open-minded academic not willing to come down on any side of an issue while simultaneously talking about the evils of history and blaming them on a blanket type of person.


                            I've got an inside track on ALL TRUTH and I've never killed anyone or started massive genocide. Go figure.

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                            • #15
                              All Truth??? Is it JC?
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