Non PC-correct History of Islam's "peaceful" religion.

[SlowBurn]

Non PC-correct History of Islam's "peaceful" religion.

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You don't see new converts to Buddhism, Christianity, atheism etc beheading anybody.

[JohnR]

Islam, Naziism, and Communism are the only two ideologies that come to mind where infidels must be killed.

[Bawanna]

Islam, Naziism, and Communism are the only two ideologies that come to mind where infidels must be killed.

How bout liberals?

[JohnR]

How bout liberals?

I did say Communists.

[kenm]

"Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe; forward into battle see his banners go! "

are there any stat's as to which religion has run up the highest body count? how about general body count figures for people who have died for or by religion?
"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap." foreign policy was never based on that.

Haha - love that hymn.
I still sing it unintentionally/unconsciously/spontaneously at times - to the consternation of some of those around me.

Regarding body count, I'm not sure how many were killed by us during the Crusades - when king John, et al, went forth with their weapons in the name of Christ.
If you look at ancient history, only the Hindus and Buddhists did not use force/death to spread their religions.
Of course in more recent history, the so-called Buddhists in Sri Lanka (Ceylon) have slaughtered women and children (1950s)
And the Hindus have killed a lot of Muslims in India. (neither was to spread their faith, though)

The Jews in Israel were terrorists during British rule, and killed many Brits - former Israeli PM, Menachin Begin was a named terrorist, responsible for the death of many civilians.
In the past few decades, the vast majority of terrorists (murderers) have been Muslim, so I don't see why there is a problem with so-called "profiling". What is wrong with paying more attention to a Muslim-sounding name? Surely most law-abiding Muslims also want the safety of logical steps to apprehend possible terrorists?

I don't care what religion a person has - Muslim, etc or atheist. Continue practicing your faith - just don't attack me or my country (or anyone else, for that matter).

Okay, end of my pontification.

[knkali]

Haha - love that hymn.
I still sing it unintentionally/unconsciously/spontaneously at times - to the consternation of some of those around me.

Regarding body count, I'm not sure how many were killed by us during the Crusades - when king John, et al, went forth with their weapons in the name of Christ.
If you look at ancient history, only the Hindus and Buddhists did not use force/death to spread their religions.
Of course in more recent history, the so-called Buddhists in Sri Lanka (Ceylon) have slaughtered women and children (1950s)
And the Hindus have killed a lot of Muslims in India. (neither was to spread their faith, though)

The Jews in Israel were terrorists during British rule, and killed many Brits - former Israeli PM, Menachin Begin was a named terrorist, responsible for the death of many civilians.
In the past few decades, the vast majority of terrorists (murderers) have been Muslim, so I don't see why there is a problem with so-called "profiling". What is wrong with paying more attention to a Muslim-sounding name? Surely most law-abiding Muslims also want the safety of logical steps to apprehend possible terrorists?

I don't care what religion a person has - Muslim, etc or atheist. Continue practicing your faith - just don't attack me or my country (or anyone else, for that matter).

Okay, end of my pontification.

Your post is factual and your sentiment is sound with me.

[TheTman]

To add a little balance:
The Roman church has probably killed more Christians, than Muslims, from the early 600's up until the 1800's. Considering the days when they would send armies out to villages, mostly in eastern Europe that were non-Catholic but Christian villages, force them to accept the Pope, and become Catholic, or be slaughtered. Some had gotten the word through the Greek Orthodox Church, or from Christian missionaries that made their way into their lands. Many were slaughtered rather than accept the Pope. Then there are all the witches and heretics they killed. During the Crusades, they attacked any city on the way, Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, and usually left no one alive. When Jerusalem finally fell, every inhabitant was slaughtered, Christian, Jew, Muslim, it didn't matter. They say the streets ran ankle deep in blood. Coptic Christians, and other non Catholics were considered fair game. Later wars were fought between Catholic forces and Protestant forces, causing many deaths.
Estimates of the total Christians killed directly or indirectly through wars instigated by Catholic agents and such, range from 50 million to over 100 million killed since the early 600's. And this doesn't take into account those of other faiths slain, or indigenous people like the Indians of Mexico, and other lands that were conquered and the indigenous people converted or destroyed. I mean no insult to my Catholic friends, these things happened many years ago. And would be like blaming us for slavery. This was back when the Church sought to control both religion and political systems, although the Jesuits are still doing their works of intrigue to influence governments as much as they are able. The thing about them, is the "End justifies the means" which leaves them wide open to commit any type of crime, as long as it furthers their cause. I find it a bit disconcerting that Pope Francis is a Jesuit.
Some factions of Islam, are acting much like the early Roman Church. Convert or Die. At least some caliphates will tolerate other religions as long as they pay a tax to the muslims.
The Roman church could be considered as continuation of the Roman empire. Constantine gave himself the title of Pontificus Maximus, and the early church leaders were mostly high ranking Romans. That Roman culture seems to have stuck with the Church for centuries. They even had their Holy Roman Empire at one point, that covered a large section of central Europe, that was controlled by the Church. Politics played as large a role as Religion did for much of the history of the Church.

[muggsy]

I have to admit that John and TheTman know their history well. Good on ya guys.

[TheTman]

Thanks muggsy, I've always been a history buff, and since I've become more interested in my Christian heritage, I've done a lot of research on different aspects of the early history, and how Rome came to take it over, and totally mess it up in my opinion. I was really appalled at what the Romans did to it, But I don't talk about that much as few want to hear it, as it really upsets the applecart, it was very hard for me to accept. And since whether Protestant or Catholic, most of our beliefs and traditions were shaped by the Romans, even before the Catholics took over the religious duties these traditions have carried right on until the present day. When the Protestants broke away they took many of the Roman holidays, and traditions with them. The Roman empire lived on in the Catholic church for centuries, and they even established a Holy Roman Empire in central Europe, Germany and surrounding countries, down into northern Italy from the 1300's to the 1800's. Although some consider the birth of it to be the Pope naming Charlemagne Emperor of his lands, or Otto I as Emperor of his lands, back in the 600 and 800's. The Catholics back then were very political, and wanted to control politics as well as religion.
If anyone is curious or wants more information about the practices Rome introduced, that I object too, drop me a PM.

I try to worship like the Christians did back in the 1st century, before things started changing. I no longer celebrate the holidays that Rome instituted, and observe the Sabbath from sundown Friday, until Sundown Saturday. As was the custom until Constantine came along. The early Christians did meet on Sundays or on any other day they could get together and often the Sabbath activities carried over into Sunday, as they do nowadays in Israel. The only reason the Sabbath was changed to Sunday, was the Romans were very anti-Semitic, having not long previously put down major revolts in Judea, and were fed up with the Jews, and thought that observing the traditional Sabbath was a sign of "Jewishness". So it was changed to Sunday, the day they were used to worshipping the Sun God. And not because Christ rose on Sunday, or anything else we've been told. Constantine signed a proclamation making Christianity the official Roman religion, but no one actually changed their beliefs. It was a gradual conversion among the population that happened over time. But it did stop much of the persecution of the Christians. No more feeding them the lions and such in the coliseum.