A history of the Illuminati, and New World Order, what's happening now, future plans

[muggsy]

Every Mason that I have known has been a good God fearing man. Common sense tells me that a good God fearing man doesn't suddenly become evil by achieving the 33rd degree of Masonry.

[Bawanna]

Always wondered why folks were so concerned with what brick layers thought about stuff.

Just don't get it.

[muggsy]

But the NRA isn't a secret organization. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I'm skeptical that any organization could keep such secrets very long. I'm leaning toward believing you about the Masons, but how does anyone know the truth?

The only way that three men can keep a secret is if two of them are dead. (Ben Franklin)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

[TheTman]

Muggs, are you just messing with me or what? it's not the degree that makes you "evil', it's not the fraternity either. That's like saying all Catholic priests are pedophiles, because of the few that are. The 33rd degree is mostly honorary, given to people like politicians, and famous people and stuff. I think Bob Dole was a 33rd Degree, and it was given to some of the Astronauts, and other famous people. I think even Shaquille O'neill is an honorary 33rd degree. But there are levels way above that, I've heard of levels in the 70's, but I don't really know. I found out enough to get the hell out.
Most of the mason's I knew are good people and most of them do good things. There are a lot of veterans, all good people, and a lot of LEO's, again good folks. There are a few that got in that I don't trust at all.

The folks I'm talking about at the top echelon, inner circle, are as far removed from the ordinary mason's you and I would know, as the Pope and Vatican staff are from the ordinary Catholics.
Unless you are the type of person that would rub shoulders with the extremely rich and powerful people today, you'll most likely never meet one of the top level.
If you don't believe me, Google Albert Pike's view on Lucifer, and see what comes up. He may be dead, but what he was involved with lives on.

It's the type of people that get selected to become part of the inner circle at the very top. Money hungry, one world, one religion, types. People that would gladly bow down to Satan to become even richer and more powerful. The degree, or the fraternity have nothing to do with anything evil, if its 33 and under. If they are over that, they won't admit to anything above 33rd degree.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/1o5.htm - although they say 5% are involved, I'd don't think it's near that high, more like 1% if that many. Especially with all the new people they are bringing in just to get more Shriners.

John R, you can go to about any public library and find out about anything the ordinary mason knows, probably more, since they've started this "All the Way in One Day", stuff, where you become a Mason, Scottish or York Rite 32nd Degree, and Shriner all in one day. They used to kill people that divulged their secret rituals, but that ended quite some time ago, I think the last person they murdered was in the 1800's sometime. I went through the old way, where it took several months to achieve your 2nd and 3rd degrees, and you actually had to learn some things. Now it's all about getting new Shriners. I even presided over the lodge as the Worshipful Master one night, as that was my position in their study club, and preparing to go through the different offices of the lodge for real. But I got involved in the Provost Guard in the Shrine and lost interest in the Mason's Blue Lodge which is the first 3 degrees. After you get your 3rd degree, then that you are considered to be "at the top" the Scottish and York Rite, kind of branch off sideways from there, instead of going up. Unless you get picked to become part of the inner circle, and that was not about to happen to some poor old farm boy like me.

It's funny, I was a staunch defender of Masonry for all the years I was involved. I dismissed all the talk about the Illuminati and stuff as nonsense. Then I started doing research, and it was mostly the writings of Albert Pike, one of Masonry's most revered leaders, that caused me to change my mind about the fraternity. I doubt that there are any more than a handful of people in my state that may be involved in the higher circles, maybe none at all. Maybe more than I think. I do wonder about some of the Politicians.

[muggsy]

Everyone is free to believe anything that they want. If world domination through the worship of Satan is the goal the Masons they have sure taken their sweet time in achieving that goal.

[muggsy]

Always wondered why folks were so concerned with what brick layers thought about stuff.

Just don't get it.

Me too, neither.

[JohnR]

Mention Shriners and I always think of Ray Stevens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplvmieXOZ0

[TheTman]

LOL, good one John R, and not far from what goes on either.

Muggs, be glad they have taken their time. Just take a look around at the changes in America over the last 50 years. We've gone from a God fearing nation, to a nation where anything goes, if it feels good do it, stamp out any signs of Christianity or decency and morality. Get God out of the schools, and public places. What do you see when you watch tv? Mostly trash, about who's gonna get laid by whom, and there is always a gay character or two. These type of changes couldn't happen over night, they had to be made gradually, so we didn't really notice. No way can you go from Bonanza, to Modern Family overnight. It takes time to corrupt a nation to the point that we have sunk too. And get all their lackey's in high offices and such. The communist anti-war crowd of the 60's are now in positions of power, where they can get things done. It takes time to load the courts with libtard Judges, that ignore the constitution and rule by their own opinions, or whatever the noisy minorities of the lgbt crowd or atheists want. SOMETHING is causing this downward spiral we are in. It's not just Obama, as things have been declining way before he came on the scene. Although the downward spiral seems to have picked up a lot of momentum with him in office. They have been meddling in the education system for years, producing a dumbed down anything goes, type of citizen. Again, it was gradual, a bit here, a bit there, to fly under the radar. I'm glad my children are grown, and not being fed this Common Core BS. If you can't see what is going on, then you are part of the problem. Bush 1 announced the New World Order was being unleashed. The Bushes are all onboard with it, as are most of the senior congress people. And those in charge of agencies like the EPA, IRS, DHS, FEMA. What was behind the big purge of so many Generals and other high ranking people in the Armed Forces? It wasn't that they wouldn't uphold the constitution, that's for damn sure. Why is this nation so screwed up anymore, with a debt we can never repay. Because that is where the puppet masters want us to be. Like one of the Rothschilds said, give me control of a nations finances, and I care not who their leadership is. Well guess who is in control of our nation's finances? Who are the major owners of the Federal Reserve? Big financial conglomerates, that if you could trace the ownership, I'd bet it would lead right to the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and their cronies.
I don't know why I bother. People are going to sit back and let this country be taken over. It's much easier to ignore the problem, than to do anything about it. There are great hopes that the Republicans will take back the Senate. Not sure what his will accomplish, as one set of puppets will be replaced by another set. They give us small diversions like Abortion and gay rights, and closing the borders to fight the opposing party over, but does anything change on the Global scale?

[berettabone]

Illuminati...........New World Order.................................follow the money..............without name, the people that have the most money, control this nation. They get people elected, they do favors, they give donations, they make the laws.............sometimes, in the case of people like Bloomberg, not all things you wish for, and throw money at, come to fruition.......................but make no mistake, money is the biggest influence on anything that happens..........................period.

[getsome]

You are correct as usual berettabone, it's all about follow the money....There is a core group of ultra rich that control our government, decide who gets elected and who doesn't and really pulls all the strings that we are made to believe our elected officials are doing....The latest new world order, power grab going on right now is "Climate Change"....Most people with half a working brain know that global warming is a load of horse hockey but the real power brokers and the UN have latched onto this big lie and want to use it to tax carbon and redistribute energy resources from the haves to the have nots....When even the Rockefellers jump on the bandwagon to stop climate change you gotta know something stinks......

[muggsy]

Tom, the country isn't being taken over by the Masons or the Illuminati. If anyone is attempting to take it over it's the left wing liberal progressive socialist democrats and lately they aren't faring too well. Instead of reiterating some internet conspiracy theory tripe, why not try to do something constructive like getting out the conservative vote. You could do worse.

[TheTman]

How many times do I have to say it's not the Mason's, at least not the ones you or I would ever know.
The Illuminati, is both an organization, and a catch all phrase for the New World Order/Globalist/Ultra Rich Banksters/One World, One Religion types.

I think many are caught up in the "Normalcy Bias", that was very common in Germany in the 1930's. People just couldn't conceive or imagine what Hitler was about to unleash upon the world. It just wasn't "normal". Many Jews got caught up in this, and could have escaped, but they thought things would never happen the way they did. People just can't imagine, that major changes can take place. People saw changes going on all around them, yet refused to accept anything out of the ordinary was going on.
All around us, we have Police departments being turned into small armies, militarized far beyond their need. The DHS buying ungodly amounts of ammunition. All kinds of crazy crap going on, but I guess it's all just normal. Just sit back, I'm sure everything will be just fine. I actually hope you are right, but I'm not convinced.

[muggsy]

Some of us are caught up in the wild and wacky world of the conspiracy theorists and see a boogie man behind every tree. If what these theorists believe is true the Illuminati hasn't accomplished much in the way of world domination over the last two hundred and fifty years. If what the theorists believe is true there is nothing much that you are going to be able to do to stop it. Don't worry about the things that you cannot change.

[knkali]

How many times do I have to say it's not the Mason's, at least not the ones you or I would ever know.
The Illuminati, is both an organization, and a catch all phrase for the New World Order/Globalist/Ultra Rich Banksters/One World, One Religion types.

I think many are caught up in the "Normalcy Bias", that was very common in Germany in the 1930's. People just couldn't conceive or imagine what Hitler was about to unleash upon the world. It just wasn't "normal". Many Jews got caught up in this, and could have escaped, but they thought things would never happen the way they did. People just can't imagine, that major changes can take place. People saw changes going on all around them, yet refused to accept anything out of the ordinary was going on.
All around us, we have Police departments being turned into small armies, militarized far beyond their need. The DHS buying ungodly amounts of ammunition. All kinds of crazy crap going on, but I guess it's all just normal. Just sit back, I'm sure everything will be just fine. I actually hope you are right, but I'm not convinced.

Good post with a healthy dose of skepticism.......Good

[TheTman]

Not accomplished much in the last 250 years? How about the American Revolution to some extent, the French Revolution, the Bolshevik revolution in Russa. The communist revolution in China, all financed by the Globalists/illiminati/New World Order, whatever you want to call them. Pretty significant events in my book. I haven't looked into it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't involved in the Cuban revolution, and much of the chaos in South America. They seem to like communists. I suppose since their leaders are easily manipulated by large sums of money.

Do you know why the Illuminati was supposedly disbanded? Because a courier with documents pertaining to the Frnech Revolution and the Illunati's plans and goals for it was struck by lightening and killed, and the documents fell into the wrong hands, and the German authorities proceeded to try and shut down the Illuminati. They just morphed into something else and continued their manipulations.