A history of the Illuminati, and New World Order, what's happening now, future plans

[TheTman]

Muggs, we don't need to resort to name calling. Unless you are turning Democrat on us. What points in which videos have been proven false?

[TheTman]

IMHO, the ones who are being an idiots, are those who accept everything the government feeds us, without question. Getsome you are right, we have been lied too so much, that If a career politician is moving his lips, I expect lies are coming out. I started this thread off with a recording from a Teacher of the Gospel, that I trust a lot more than anyone in the forum. This man makes it his business to see the bigger picture, and relate it to the events of the world, and to show how these things will affect the 2nd coming, and is not afraid to face the world as it really is. If he believes the Illuminati/New World Order/or Kosmokratoras as he calls them, is real, then I trust his view, much more than any of these armchair philosophers, that dismiss anything that doesn't fall into their vision of reality. I believe that the tribulation is not that far in the future, and the New World Order/Illuminati/ or whatever you want to call them are going to play a major role in those times. I see a war on Christians, gearing up already. The liberal atheists have kicked God out of everyplace they can. Sexual perversion is rampant, and considered normal by a large chunk of the population, to the point that it's even taught in schools. Our police departments are morphing into small armies, and I wonder who they consider as the enemy sometimes. I've seen some pretty horrible things happen to people that didn't deserve the beatings they got. It seems to be a crime to be homeless, or handicapped.
Some jerkwads deserve what they get, others I'm not sure what set things off. I'm sorry if my religious views offend anyone, it's just that it is so intermingled with my views on the Illuminati, that it's difficult to keep them separate. Everyone is free to have their own opinions, I just attempted to share a teaching that I thought was important. I would think that with this massive debt the nation has accumulated, that things would be more obvious to people. About the only thing propping up our economy is the petro-dollar, and when that ends, things are going to get bad.

[muggsy]

Muggs, we don't need to resort to name calling. Unless you are turning Democrat on us. What points in which videos have been proven false?

I didn't call anyone a name, but if the name applies to you, you may wear it proudly. It has been proven that it was two different girls pictured who had similar facial features and voice. Every good conspiracy theory starts out with a truth such as that jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. But, the fire doesn't have to be hot enough to melt steel it only has to be hot enough to weaken the steel. A few more embellishments to the lie and before long Bush is responsible for bringing down the twin towers with explosives. The more ridiculous the assertion the more fools believe it. The majority of fools are liberal fools, but a few right wing fools exist. I don't think that you are a fool, but I'm no fool either. I tend to deal with what is and not what if.

[BucketBack]

Is the Skulls and Bones fraternity a conspiracy? How about all the secret things going on in CIA labs around the country? Did we give our own soldiers things like LSD, and other drugs to see if that would help in interrogating foreign agents? How about the MK-Ultra mind control, and the creation of the Super-Soldier that can use his mind as well as his body as a weapon. Yeah, it's all a conspiracy.
I'm sure the stealth jets were conspiracies until they appeared in the sky over Iraq. I bet if someone said something about the stealth jets, before they were unveiled, it would have been a conspiracy theory and dismissed. Secret military technology is at least 3 decades ahead of what they show us. But it's all a conspiracy, until they unveil them.
I agree that one should view things with a good deal of skepticism, but not be so closed minded as to dismiss anything that they haven't seen on TV or whatever.
This Illuminati stuff is not something I came across last week. I've been studying it for years. I think the easiest place to find evidence of it is in the entertainment industry, where artists can only go so far, without getting involved with the entertainment "Illuminati", just sign your name in blood on this contract and you will become a star. It might require that you sacrifice a family member or loved one, but you will get your fame and fortune as long as stay in the fold.

I knew about the Stealth jets up until the gubbermint cancelled the B1 and B2 Bomber program in the early eighties. They took all the tooling and disappeared,until IRAG.

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[TheTman]

Boom, how is all this "misunderstood". Seems plain enough to me.

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer ! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the
Morning! It is he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual or selfish souls?
Doubt it not!"
Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p321, 19th Degree of Grand
Pontiff
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Domenico Margiotta 0- 33rd degree Mason has written
"Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is Manichaean neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual
and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay
the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other
masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"
Extract from 'Masonry - beyond the light' Wm.Schnoebelen former 32nd degree Mason
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“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power,
he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onwards
and upwards he must prove his ability to properly apply (this) energy.”
‘Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ page 48, Manley P Hall 33rd degree.
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General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme
councils of the world.

“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you
sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees -
the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian
doctrine.
If lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man,
barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him?
Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade,
no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary
for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in lucifer, the
equal of Adonay, but lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of
darkness and evil”
Recorded by A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et L’enfant dans La Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, Page 588. Cited from ‘The
question of freemasonry, ( 2nd edition 1986 by Edward Decker pp12-14)

NOTE: The above statement by Albert Pike is often challenged on the basis of the so called 'Leo Taxil' hoax. Please read
here.
Interestingly the above 'luciferian' doctrine gets verified from an unusual source. Dr. Lester Sumrall in volume two of
his teaching manuals 'Demonology and Deliverance', (ISBN 0-937580-64-3) uses question and answer editorial to recount the
life story and demonic spiritual experiences of Arlindo D. Olivera a prominent witch doctor in Brazil who was converted
to Christ. (pages 52 - 58)
On Page 57 Dr Sumrall asks

'Arlindo, did you ever meet satan, the chief of all demons?'
Arlindo replies ..
'Yes......when he manifested I sang Lucifer's hymn. Some of the words were
He is the king of Hell
He has two heads
One is the king if hell
The other is Jesus of Nazareth
One works for good, and one works for bad
Compare this with the doctrine espoused above and you see there is the same demonic 'theology' running through both. (If
this was a hoax or a joke as Mason's would have us believe then Leo Taxil demonstrated a remarkable understanding of the
spirit realm)

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[muggsy]

Stealth jets were a military secret not a conspiracy. Skull and bones isn't a conspiracy it's a fraternity. MK Ultra falls under the heading of black ops and wasn't a conspiracy, but rather a matter of national security. Our communist enemies were conducting similar experiments in their countries. The main objective of conspiracy theories is to sell books to willing dupes by people who are too, lazy to get real jobs.

[TheTman]

Yes, but most were conspiracy theories before they were proven, and skull and bones still generates a lot of conspiracy theories, as does MK-Ultra.