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    St. Louis mayor agrees to hire felons

    By St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO) October 15, 2014 6:50 am
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    ST. LOUIS -- Mayor Francis Slay announced on Tuesday that St. Louis will no longer require applicants for city jobs to disclose felony convictions.
    "Millions of Americans have been convicted of felonies. Many of them have paid their debt to society and are willing to earn a second chance," Slay said at a press conference. "If we automatically disqualify all of them, and none of them can get jobs, we should not be surprised if some of them wind up back behind bars from committing more crimes."
    Slay said the city will do screening on a case-by-case situations, but job applications will no longer have a check-box asking applicants about their criminal history.
    "We would not hire a child molester for recreational programs," Slay said. "We would not hire an embezzler to handle money."
    The announcement comes as regional leaders grapple with the unrest in Ferguson following the shooting death of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. Protesters have used the situation to shine a light on problems such as racial discord, police tactics, and poverty.
    Slay made the announcement while standing next to Jamilah Nasheed, a state senator who has appeared on the front lines of many of the Ferguson protests.
    "This is how you fight crime," Nasheed said. "You fight crime with jobs."
    Officials said some people may not apply for jobs thinking a conviction would automatically disqualify them.
    "If you get out of prison and you can't get a job, you can't provide for yourself or your family," Slay said.
    Some jobs are subject to regulations and legally required background checks, such as at the airport or police department.
    The push, known as "ban the box," is part of a national movement. Many large cities across the nation have already done so. Some, including Philadelphia, have even prohibited city employers from including the box on job applications.
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    Isn't that just perfect. Mr. Nasheed must be looking for a job. Probably has the mayor wife and kids tied up in a basement someplace.
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    • #3
      Oh boy. I can see the lawsuits from when somebody is victimized by a felon on the cities payroll. This is so stupid. Next he will want their voting and firearms rights restored. BS to that.
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      • #4
        they can get rid of the felon checkbox, but how about where the applicant fills in the work history. 7 year gap and the applicant fills in "guest of state"?
        this is just PC/BS to look good, maybe get some votes. hey, felons can't vote, or did they change that too?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marcinstl View Post
          hey, felons can't vote, or did they change that too?
          Nope. But in some areas the politicians are trying to get voting and firearms restored to "non-violent" felons after so many years of good behavior. What a load of crap. Once a CONVICT always a CONVICT. I DO NOT believe in the term EX-CON as it is illogical, flies in the face of common sense, and is an outright LIE!!! The correct term if any is EX-INMATE.
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          • #6
            To somebody like me losing my firearms rights would be much worse than a death sentence.

            Take em away I'd probably give myself the death sentence.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by downtownv View Post
              St. Louis mayor agrees to hire felons

              By St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO) October 15, 2014 6:50 am
              Text Size: A A A

              ST. LOUIS -- Mayor Francis Slay announced on Tuesday that St. Louis will no longer require applicants for city jobs to disclose felony convictions.
              "Millions of Americans have been convicted of felonies. Many of them have paid their debt to society and are willing to earn a second chance," Slay said at a press conference. "If we automatically disqualify all of them, and none of them can get jobs, we should not be surprised if some of them wind up back behind bars from committing more crimes."
              Slay said the city will do screening on a case-by-case situations, but job applications will no longer have a check-box asking applicants about their criminal history.
              "We would not hire a child molester for recreational programs," Slay said. "We would not hire an embezzler to handle money."
              The announcement comes as regional leaders grapple with the unrest in Ferguson following the shooting death of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. Protesters have used the situation to shine a light on problems such as racial discord, police tactics, and poverty.
              Slay made the announcement while standing next to Jamilah Nasheed, a state senator who has appeared on the front lines of many of the Ferguson protests.
              "This is how you fight crime," Nasheed said. "You fight crime with jobs."
              Officials said some people may not apply for jobs thinking a conviction would automatically disqualify them.
              "If you get out of prison and you can't get a job, you can't provide for yourself or your family," Slay said.
              Some jobs are subject to regulations and legally required background checks, such as at the airport or police department.
              The push, known as "ban the box," is part of a national movement. Many large cities across the nation have already done so. Some, including Philadelphia, have even prohibited city employers from including the box on job applications.
              http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/10/1.../?subscriber=1
              well what did u expect, he is a fokking stupid politician. His logic doesn'thave to agree with 95% of the publics. I wonder if he would like his entire neighborhood being all x-inmates except him, and have his gardenar an x-inmate and his wifes gynocologists an x-inmate. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. Actually kind of sad to even read this crap, if only God would giuve me the BUTTON for one day, alot of these people would just dissappear, and then we could let eric holder investigate He is good at that u know.

              Not sure most read what I read earlier today but the police union in st. louis area are starting to fight back on these ferguson people. They are finally getting feed up with the b.s. they are causing etc. Gunshot residue all over that youths hands and clothing, u know, u can get gunsh!tresidue from a sandwich to. Yup fact, just ask his momma..
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              • #8
                St. Louis is probably run by a bunch of criminals anyway.
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                • #9
                  resume inbound...just sayin'.
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                  • #10
                    I do believe in redemption. There are some people behind bars for non violent crimes that do rehabilitate. They paid their dues and should be given a second chance. I would want that for myself.
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                    • #11
                      You guys are being too hard on the Mayor. Everyone deserves a second chance. Hell, I'm on my third or forth second chance right now. I must have several socially redeeming factors going for me, though I can't think of any off hand. What the hell, if you can't trust a felon who can you trust. I'd let a thief stand watch over my most prized possessions. Ya just gotta have faith and a lot of hidden surveillance cameras.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marcinstl View Post
                        they can get rid of the felon checkbox, but how about where the applicant fills in the work history. 7 year gap and the applicant fills in "guest of state"?
                        this is just PC/BS to look good, maybe get some votes. hey, felons can't vote, or did they change that too?
                        Agreed. Every job I've had as an adult required a background check and two of them required an NCIC check yearly. Of course, I wasn't stocking shelves or flipping burgers but most employers will do a background check regardless of what an applicant puts on a resume. And you can bet if the place of employment does drug tests they also do background checks.

                        Originally posted by knkali View Post
                        I do believe in redemption. There are some people behind bars for non violent crimes that do rehabilitate. They paid their dues and should be given a second chance. I would want that for myself.
                        Agreed, depending on the crime. I know a few felons that did something stupid when young, but non-violent, and have turned into contributing, tax paying individuals with families that I'm glad to call friends and family.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by knkali View Post
                          I do believe in redemption. There are some people behind bars for non violent crimes that do rehabilitate. They paid their dues and should be given a second chance. I would want that for myself.
                          I agree.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AJBert View Post
                            Agreed. Every job I've had as an adult required a background check and two of them required an NCIC check yearly. Of course, I wasn't stocking shelves or flipping burgers but most employers will do a background check regardless of what an applicant puts on a resume. And you can bet if the place of employment does drug tests they also do background checks.
                            And nowadays, that background check will include online searches for all the dumb crap the applicants posted on their facebook pages.
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                            • #15
                              I got just one word to say, recidivism.
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