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    New York governor buckles to Fed pressure on Ebola

    Posted on October 28, 2014 by Chip WoodViews: 352
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    Shame on New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Last Friday, he appeared in a joint news conference with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to announce that both states would impose a mandatory quarantine on health workers who returned to their states after treating Ebola patients in West Africa. But his defiance of Obama Administration policy didn’t last the weekend.
    It’s no surprise that federal officials were outraged at the idea that a state would defy their leadership how to deal with the Ebola crisis. A senior administration official was quoted anonymously as saying, “We have let the governors of New York, New Jersey, and other states know that we have concerns with the unintended consequences” of policies “not grounded in science.”
    That was all it took for Cuomo to back down. Two days later, he buckled under the pressure from the Obama Administration and said: OK, we won’t quarantine them. But they’ll have to remain in their homes for 21 days while being monitored for symptoms by state health officials.
    The latest crisis began when Craig Spencer, a physician who had served in West Africa with Doctors without Borders, was diagnosed with Ebola after he returned to New York City. Before he showed any symptoms, Spencer went bowling and traveled around the city on the subway. We’re assured by health officials that victims aren’t contagious until they develop definite symptoms, such as fatigue or a high temperature. But it’s no wonder a heck of a lot of New Yorkers are concerned they might have been exposed to Ebola by some sort of contact with Spencer, without even knowing it.
    Cuomo is a Democrat. Chris Christie, the governor of New Jersey, is a Republican. Both have been mentioned as possible contenders for their party’s nominations for President. Both are in the spotlight for how they handle the Ebola crisis. By buckling to pressure from the feds, Cuomo in particular is taking one heck of a risk. If another New Yorker develops Ebola because of exposure to Spencer, you can put “finished” to any further political ambitions Cuomo might have.
    In the meantime, Christie faced a bit of a hornet’s nest in New Jersey. Kaci Hickox, a nurse who treated Ebola victims in Sierra Leone, had been placed in 21-day quarantine and kept in a tent attached to a hospital. She had a toilet but no shower and said her conditions were “inhumane.” She told CNN on Sunday that she retained a lawyer and might sue to win her release.
    On Monday, Christie said the nurse, who has been symptom-free since her confinement, would be released and flown to Maine, “not via mass transit or commercial aircraft.” Now it’s your problem, Maine, the governor seems to be saying.
    All of this confusion and controversy is happening for one very simple reason: The Feds’ bungled response to the Ebola crisis. The Wall Street Journal noted in an editorial yesterday:
    The real problem is that the CDC, the World Health Organization, the Health and Human Services Department and the White House have all given ample reason not to trust their assurances. They said the chance of an Ebola case in the U.S. was remote. They said airport screeners would catch anyone sick trying to enter. They said U.S. hospitals were prepared for such cases, and that doctors and nurses would be protected. And they said self-quarantines would prevent new cases.
    As we know, all these assurances were false.
    The first and most important responsibility of government is to protect its citizens. So congratulations to any governor who is willing to defy the Obama Administration to do so.
    Until next time, keep some powder dry.
    –Chip Wood

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  • #2
    The problem went to Maine. It's no longer Cuomo's problem. When I was a kid I was quarantined for Chicken Pox and Measles and I didn't whine as much as that nurse. She needs to grow up. Suspected carriers of deadly diseases need to be quarantined. We don't need another typhoid Mary.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by muggsy View Post
      The problem went to Maine. It's no longer Cuomo's problem. When I was a kid I was quarantined for Chicken Pox and Measles and I didn't whine as much as that nurse. She needs to grow up. Suspected carriers of deadly diseases need to be quarantined. We don't need another typhoid Mary.

      No No that was Christies Girl that was allowed to leave via private transportation.... He was about to be sued by this extreme liberal aclu lawyer from NYC. He stood his ground and told her if she was released she HAD to vacate NJ escorted at HER expense....
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      • #4
        Nurse Kaci Hickox under weak 'quarantine' in Maine

        By Associated Press October 28, 2014 6:53 am
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        FORT KENT, Maine (AP) -- A nurse who treated Ebola patients in West Africa agreed to be quarantined at home in Maine upon her return from a weekend of confinement in New Jersey, but her lawyer disagrees with officials over how long she'll have to stay in seclusion.
        Nurse Kaci Hickox left a New Jersey hospital on Monday and headed toward home in northern Maine, where her partner is a nursing student at the University of Maine at Fort Kent.
        Maine health officials announced that she'd be quarantined at home for 21 days after the last possible exposure to the disease under the state's health protocols.
        But one of Hickox's lawyers, Steve Hyman, said he expected her to remain in seclusion for the "next day or so" while he works with Maine health officials. He said he believes the state should follow the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines that require only monitoring, not quarantine, for health care workers who show no symptoms after treating Ebola patients.
        "She's a very good person who did very good work and deserves to be honored, not detained, for it," he said.
        Hickox, who was expected home Tuesday morning, volunteered in Africa with Doctors Without Borders. She spent the weekend in a quarantine tent in New Jersey despite having no symptoms other than a slightly elevated temperature she blamed on "inhumane" treatment at Newark Liberty International Airport.
        She was the first person forced into New Jersey's mandatory quarantine for people arriving at Newark Liberty from three West African countries.
        Hickox said she never had symptoms and tested negative for Ebola in a preliminary evaluation. She left New Jersey in a private vehicle on Monday.
        New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo were sharply criticized for ordering mandatory quarantines. But Christie said Monday that his priority is protecting the health of people in his state.
        In Maine, state officials also announced a quarantine.
        "Upon the healthcare workers' return home, we will follow the guidelines set by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control for medical workers who have been in contact with Ebola patients," Gov. Paul LePage said in a statement. "Additionally, we will work with the healthcare worker to establish an in-home quarantine protocol to ensure there is no direct contact with other Mainers until the period for potential infection has passed."
        But state officials said later clarified it was only a voluntary quarantine.
        "We fully expect individuals to voluntarily comply with an in-home quarantine," LePage spokeswoman Adrienne Bennett said Monday. "If an individual is not compliant, the state is prepared to take appropriate action."
        Bennett did not immediately say what "appropriate action" might be.
        In Fort Kent, Northern Maine Medical Center is ready to care for an Ebola-infected patient, if necessary, a spokeswoman said.
        Hickox and her partner, Ted Wilbur, had moved recently to Fort Kent, where Wilbur is a senior nursing student, family members said.
        WAGM-TV said Wilbur was given the choice of staying on campus in student housing over the next few weeks or temporarily suspending classes to stay with Hickox in his off-campus home during the quarantine period. A University of Maine system spokesman said he couldn't confirm details of discussions with Wilbur.
        Wilbur's uncle Tom Wilbur said that Hickox should be trusted to make good decisions and that medical decisions should be grounded in science and not "hysteria."
        "She's very much a professional," he said. "And she's very bright. And if she were running a fever, she would be the first to take action."
        © 2014 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


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        • #5
          She apparently was (or claimed to be) an "Epidemic Intelligence Service Fellow" for the CDC, but has since scrubbed all such references from the internet. Maybe she lied about it.

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          • #6
            FWIW, I think Cuomo and Christie are wrong with their quarantine plans.
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            • #7
              That puts you in the minority.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DavidS View Post
                FWIW, I think Cuomo and Christie are wrong with their quarantine plans.
                Come to NY/NJ and you will feel a lot different about that statement. They want volunteers at Culombia Presp Belleville and RWJ University Hospital to clean bead pans!
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                • #9
                  Quarantines are bad, so let's bring Ebola patients here to America where we don't follow our non-existent protocols. What could go wrong?

                  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...-us-for-ebola/

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                  • #10
                    "Hmmm a Leftist Lesbian..... I'm Shocked!"
                    (her lesbian partner must be a real butch dyke with a name like Ted?)

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                    • #11
                      After reading the whole thing it appears Ted is a he. Unusual that they call a normal domestic co-habitant a partner.

                      Must be promote sin month at the news provider.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by downtownv View Post
                        Come to NY/NJ and you will feel a lot different about that statement. They want volunteers at Culombia Presp Belleville and RWJ University Hospital to clean bead pans!
                        Can I sign you up?
                        If I lived there, absolutely.
                        None of the confirmed cases of ebola in the US have transmitted the disease to anyone else through casual contact or even close personal contact such as boyfriend or girlfriend. Not the nurse who took the airplane ride, not the doctor in NY. Not even the Dallas victim who died.
                        Yes, ebola is horrendous and scares the bejesus out of people but it is VERY difficult to transmit to another person, particularly when not displaying any symptoms. At this point in time, I think a home self quarantine should be the maximum to ask of anyone who has been in the presence of a confirmed ebola patient.
                        Overreaction and hysteria leads to stupid stuff, even worse than the Cuomo/Christie quarantine idea:
                        -Mexico would not let a cruise ship make a port call because one of the passengers "handled" lab samples of the Dallas victim.
                        -Moore, OK schools would not let any of the staff or students that were on that same cruise ship back into schools
                        -Shawnee, OK sister city in Japan cancelled their delegation visit to Oklahoma because of ebola in the USA.
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                        • #13
                          I understand the concerns about hysteria BUT once this gets out of hand, there is no do over or reset. Best to over do it now so that people are protected. This virus has no on off switch or trigger pull. Its on all the time. Be vigilant do not let this bite us in the arse.
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                          • #14
                            The sample group of US Ebola cases is statistically too small to draw any conclusions from. Let's keep it that way.

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                            • #15
                              Heard this one on the news this evening.
                              The nurse they freed from New Jersey went home. Although not close to where she lives and she has no plans of going to it, people are cancelling scheduled surgeries at a hospital in the area. SMH

                              But then, it appears she is not willing to self quarantine more than a couple days. The state is chewing this over to figure their next move. The biggest factor in my eyes is that she has tested negative for the virus, so I see her point.
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