It Figures

[jocko]

do u think Monica hummer to wild bill was a miff?? Or a conspiracy for her to get her dress dry cleaned for free. ? Just sayin

[getsome]

If you turn that around backwards you get Devil with the Blue Dress on.....

Conspiracy theory of the day:

Do you think that Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby are the same person? Never seen um together, have you?

[getsome]

On second thought I'd be afraid to see Monica turned around backwards, can you say: Canyon Canyon Canyon!!!

[JohnR]

Don't look at the Bushmaster lawsuit through anguished parents' eyes, look at it though the eyes of people who want to ban all guns in America. Then it'll make sense.

Are there conspiracies? You're damn right there are. Did you know that George Soros has spent $80 million so far on getting marijuana legalized? The same guy who is personally committed to global socialism? Taking over a country is easier when the people are stoned and disarmed.

[TheTman]

I ran across this video, it shows a hypnotist programming a man to commit a murder, without his knowledge or remembering the murder. He actually carried out the simulated murder, and had no recollection at all of what he did. Makes a person wonder about some of these shootings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=nrwBTwz-9Fw

Here is a page devoted to possibility of Sandy Hook being a hoax http://www.theconspiracyzone.org/posts/31184 along with discussions of some of the other mass murders not going down as reported.

I don't know what went on, but I'd bet a bunch of money that we weren't told the real story.

Muggsy, you say you don't believe in conspiracy theories, but a Federal Court ruled that James Earl Ray did not assassinate M. L. King, but that it was the result of a government conspiracy. His widow even visited Ray in prison to tell him she knew he didn't do it. Do a search on conspiracy theories that turned out to be true, and you might open your mind. Here are 33 of them: http://www.infowars.com/33-conspirac...n-should-know/

I think that the people that want the guns out of our hands, will do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal.

[muggsy]

There have been enough mass shootings in this country, so that no one has to make one up and risk being discovered. Those mass shooting don't change the words in the second amendment to the constitution. You people are free to believe anything that you want and I'm free to think of you as fools for what you're thinking, or for not thinking, as the case may be. I'm not going to the dig up the bodies of any of the kids in the cemetery and neither are you. Loose cannons who believe in these stupid conspiracy theories provide all the ammunition that the anti-gunners need. Did you ever think about that?

[89grand]

Anyone who believes in these conspiracy theories shouldn't be allowed to own a gun due to mental illness. Local and State police were involved. Hospitals and morgues were involved. The parent of the children who weren't killed were involved. EMS was involved. News people were involved. The only way for three men to keep a secret is if two of them are dead. Wake up or grow up which ever is more appropriate. Sometimes very bad things happen to very good people.

I don't want to have any animosity towards or received from anyone on this forum, but I would argue strongly against this train of thought.

I would argue the exact opposite would make even more sense. Those easily duped, that can flat out ignore factual information presented right in their faces, while eating the utterly ridiculous anti-gun government/media stew are an even bigger problem.

If anyone can watch this video, and it is extremely long, but very well documented, and still believe this absurd hoax, well then they are a lost cause and exactly what the government expects of us. Most live up to those expectations sadly. Anyone interested, but gets bored easily, watch it in parts if needed.

Sandy Hook hoax: Lights out, game over, fat lady sang, chess mate...whatever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TgIbwaBb_U

[HAP1978]

89grand, thanks for posting that video. I watched about half of that video today and plan on finishing the rest. They did a lot of in-depth analyzing and the evidence that they showed in that video clearly showed lie after lie from everyone involved in that so called "massacre". It's all evidence that you can see, not opinion or hear say. I mean just one example is that they never found Lanza's or his mother's DNA on the evidence, they found some ex-convict's DNA from NY on it and other DNA from unknown persons. There's been a lot of people from the very beginning of this particular "school shooting" screaming that it was a hoax and people have been showing all of the inconsistencies.

The Bing and Google evidence is astounding also. I'm an SEO (search engine optimization) analyst so I know how the search engines function and their time stamps aren't wrong and don't lie.

I'm not one that easily believes in conspiracy theories, I have to see it to believe it. But where there's smoke, there's usually a fire.

[89grand]

I'm really glad this video was useful to you. My goal is not to offend, but to enlighten, and if only one person really looks deep into these events, and see's the truth, well then it's worth while on my part.

If anyone is so inclined, they can also find the same evidence of hoaxes surrounding the Boston Bombing, Cassidy Stay, the woman in DC a while back that supposedly drove insane near the White House, Elliot Rodgers...the list goes on.

I'm at the point of needing full blown proof before I believe anything from the MSM. They've reached a point that it's a hoax until proven otherwise. Most, unfortunately feel the opposite, or even worse, continue to believe even when presented facts to the contrary.

[TheTman]

I just finished watching the video 89grand. They make a very good case. They sure have made a boatload of money off of the deal. Over 27 million, and they are still asking for donations for their anti-gun campaigns and what ever. The police got a 7 million dollar government bonus, for what? Doing their job? The damage has already been done, in CT and NY, with their new laws. Discussing it isn't going to give any anti-gunners any fresh ideas to use. 27-30 million will buy a lot of people's cooperation. Funny how so many of the people had acting backgrounds, or were already associated with anti-gun organizations. I always thought the fishiest of them was the guy that said he found 6 kids in his driveway, and brought them into his house. Seems like he had a different story for every interview. He just happened to be an part time actor too. The other one was that Robbie Parker, that was all grins and giggles until it was time for his interview, then he has to get into character. I don't know, it sure seems people were acting awfully strange for people that just had something that horrendous to happen to their child. Then all the people at the fire station just walking around aimlessly. Then the road is blocked off so no ambulances could get through to collect the bodies. The talk of all the kids being evacuated, when all you see is the same group of 10 or so kids following an adult over and over. That one police car dash-cam should have caught any kids being evacuated, but I didn't see any. Unless the time stamp was way off on it. It sure didn't confirm the written narrative of how the kids were evacuated from the school. No bus could have got through the street, so they would have had to walk right where the dash cam would have seen them.
A guy was on the radio the other night on one of those late night talk shows, and said he had drove through Newtown and said the people were still very weird. A lot of groups standing outside and talking instead of going inside like most folks do when they have company, not just stand around in the front yard. Even a group of cops was just standing outside in front of the station. I've never seen that happen. I can't say no one was killed there, but I can say it was pretty damn peculiar. This kid Lanza, was supposed to have had trouble tying his shoes, and then goes out and kills that many kids and a few adults, and not one was wounded and survived? A bunch of things are very strange about the deal. I noticed there was a video that said it debunked the one I just watched, so I'm going to watch it and see what it has to say.

[89grand]

Yeah, that Sandy Hook deal is full of fraud, every single thing about it is fishy to say the least, and I've yet to see even one single bit of evidence to support it being real other than a bunch of MSM propagandist and the government just saying it happened. I don't need to see dead kids of course, but how about some video of Adam shooting his way into the school at the very least. The school had plenty of security cameras after all.

I can't imagine anyone being able to debunk the one I linked to, but maybe I'll have to look for it just to see how absurd it is.

Every one of these high profile "events" are full of ridiculous stories, and the people supposedly involved are always really weird and unnatural acting. A coincidence...NO!

[muggsy]

There are several videos on You Tube that would have the gullible believe that George W. Bush brought down the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and bombed the Pentagon just to start a war in the Middle East to feed the military industrial complex. If you believe this bullsh!t, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell you. Tell me, exactly what do you know about the people presenting this video? My guess, absolutely nothing. You believe what's in the video, because it agrees with your narrative on gun control and because you want to believe it. If there was any truth to it the NRA would have been on top of it.

[89grand]

Interestingly, right after Sandy Hook, and of course right after Obama's reelection (perfect timing), more federal level restrictions were being discussed. That jackass Harry Reid ultimately said he couldn't get the votes so nothing new came of it on a federal level, but it sure wasn't from a lack of trying. It did however work successfully in New York and Connecticut, so it's not like the gun control angle of this is out in left field.

There are just way too many questionable things about Sandy Hook (and many other recent events) to be able to swallow it hook, line and sinker. A lot of people seem to think that everyone at or near the scene, or even the whole town would have had to be on on it, but that isn't true. Many of those people were probably duped as well. The only people that would have known for sure are the few that actually went inside the building, and the supposed parents of the kids, and maybe a few of the talking heads like Anderson Cooper, Katie Couric. Oddly, extremely so in fact, no medical personnel even made contact with anybody in there. Someone apparently decided "They are all dead, we accessed that within minutes. Don't bother coming in, or take anyone away in any attempt to save them, we'll get them out later. Besides that, we've already parked cars all staggered and randomly on the access road to the school blocking any access anyway, so you couldn't get in here even if you wanted to".

I don't recall ever seeing something so ridiculous passed off as not unusual, like that's normal procedure. And that's just one of numerous other instances that flat out don't add up. Some can just believe what they are told because it was on TV, and others like myself can't get past the stunning lack of real evidence, and the absurd stories after absurd stories of what they claim happened.

Strangely too, not a single parent filed a lawsuit against the school, the Police, no one. That has to be another first in today's lawsuit happy society where everyone tries to sue everyone. Well, I guess someone finally figured they might be able to extort Bushmaster.

[muggsy]

EMS treated and transported the two wounded school personnel who were shot in the lower extremities. There was no reason to treat or transport the dead and the area in which they lay was treated as a crime scene until the investigation was completed. That's standard operating procedure.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...-survived?lite

[TheTman]

Muggsy, something you might consider are Obama's and his handler's goals, gun-control, and possibly becoming dictator, or at least pursuing the One World Government. False flags are common tactics for wannabe tyrants, Hitler had the German Chancellery burned to blame it on the Jews, and gun control was another goal he achieved by promising safety in exchange for people's guns. The same tactic is being used today, by the people saying only the police and military should be allowed to own guns.
Is Obama Hitler, no, but he closer to him than I am comfortable with. They had and have some of the same goals, gun-control, a one world government. Now throw in Fast and Furious, blaming Benghazi on some internet video, and all the executive orders, and you already have a tyrant in the making.
Hitler had the population fooled, and believing his crap. I think it's the American Patriots duty to investigate acts that lead to gun-grabbing, and further Obama and his cronies political ambitions, or we could become a 21st century version of Germany from the mid '30's to the end of WWII. Sometimes I wonder if the patriots of today feel like this is how the people felt that opposed Hitler in the 1930's.
No harm is being done here, and I'm sure none of us give a damn what you think about us. Anyone so closed minded that he won't even consider other possibilities than what they have been fed by MSM is being a damn fool. You can't get real information from MSM, they are on a very short leash. You have to look elsewhere to get any news that might cause any harm to Obama's popularity or cast any shadows on his pet projects. Or anything that goes against their corporate sponsors interests. I trust the news from Russia Today more than anything that MSM puts out. Drudge, Brietbart, Bob Livingston's News Letter, and World Net Daily seem to be pretty good sources of real news. Alex Jones even gets a few things right. The coverage of the Ferguson riots by his reporters was really good. It showed a lot of the stuff going on after the MSM had fled the scene. Did you even watch the video in question? I'd bet not, but you should give it a look. Just to see all the tie-ins between the most outspoken of the Newtown residents with gun-grabbing organizations. They are STILL raising money from the event to further their gun-grabbing schemes.
9/11 has been hashed and rehashed too many times, to even go there. There are those that are going to believe what the govt. tells them to believe, and those that have other opinions on the tragedy.