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  • #16
    Some folks keep pushing those Bush poll numbers lower every time their BDS erupts. lol

    And who really believes the current clown has 50% approval ratings? Good lawdy.

    Bush wasn't near as bad as Obama is, and the empty suit emperor is getting worse each day.

    Stupid voters beat Romney, and that's a fact. Romney would be an ideal candidate for the democrats.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by marcinstl View Post
      where were you from 01 to 09? you somehow forgot Bush/Cheney (" Upon leaving office the final poll recorded his approval rating as 19%, a record low for any U.S. President.)
      That was before OBAMA who is at least 10x worse in every way that Bush was bad. (Timid in identifying Islam as the source of the evil. Not finishing off our enemies. Too government oriented economically) In retrospect Bush looks way better to people:

      "Presidents approval rating hits 9 year high -President Bush that is"
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      • #18
        Well, it is true that Bush/Cheney got such a worthless incompetent elected in 2008.

        Obama is so bad, I think Hillarybeast would've been preferable.... and she's a POS, IMO.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Armybrat View Post
          Well, it is true that Bush/Cheney got such a worthless incompetent elected in 2008.

          Obama is so bad, I think Hillarybeast would've been preferable.... and she's a POS, IMO.
          Actually imho McCain got this excrescence elected in 2008. As bad a candidate as he was, if McCain had the sense to say "hell no" instead of "OK" to the bank bail outs he'd have swept in. He was actually ahead at that point having selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. It was having nobody on the people's side during the bail out that fired up the tea party movement, and drained Republican enthusiasm to zilch. And Romney got him re-elected, having no credibity against Obamacare since Romneycare in Mass was the same thing.
          Rest in peace Muggsy

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          • #20
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            • #21
              Have to remember that at least half of the population are freeloaders and freeloaders love free stuff.

              Hence Bush's low approval rating. He didn't want to give away as much free stuff as the current freeloader in chief.

              I'd take Bush anytime over everyone thinking about running now. At least he acts American, supports our troops, and hates most of the same things I hate. Don't think he golfed much either, gawd I hate golf.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by SlowBurn View Post
                Actually imho McCain got this excrescence elected in 2008. As bad a candidate as he was, if McCain had the sense to say "hell no" instead of "OK" to the bank bail outs he'd have swept in. He was actually ahead at that point having selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. It was having nobody on the people's side during the bail out that fired up the tea party movement, and drained Republican enthusiasm to zilch. And Romney got him re-elected, having no credibity against Obamacare since Romneycare in Mass was the same thing.
                The only reason that Romney lost the election is that good solid republican conservatives sat out the election, or voted for a third party candidate. Had they voted for Romney he would be our president. I guess those good solid republican conservatives showed him, didn't they. Some people store their brains where they sit.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                  The only reason that Romney lost the election is that good solid republican conservatives sat out the election, or voted for a third party candidate. Had they voted for Romney he would be our president. I guess those good solid republican conservatives showed him, didn't they. Some people store their brains where they sit.
                  100% agreed. This is one of the reasons why I rag on the Tea Party. Yep, they sure sent a message of non-support to mainstream republicans, didn't they.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                    Have to remember that at least half of the population are freeloaders and freeloaders love free stuff.

                    Hence Bush's low approval rating. He didn't want to give away as much free stuff as the current freeloader in chief.

                    I'd take Bush anytime over everyone thinking about running now. At least he acts American, supports our troops, and hates most of the same things I hate. Don't think he golfed much either, gawd I hate golf.
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                    • #25
                      I voted for both McCain and Romney but IMO, both fell flat during the debates. If you're going up against this POTUS, you need to put aside all of your morals and ethics and be prepared to attend a street fight. Neither of the hopefuls rose to the occasion thus turning off their potential supporters. I, for one, am glad that Romney chose not to run this time. The time for morals and ethics is after you've been sworn into office. YMMV
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by marshal kane View Post
                        The time for morals and ethics is after you've been sworn into office. YMMV
                        If you don't have morals and ethics prior to the election you certainly aren't going to develop them after the election. The founding fathers believed that morality and ethics were the two most important characteristics to have in a candidate. Romney has both in spades and so do all of his family members.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ScottM View Post
                          100% agreed. This is one of the reasons why I rag on the Tea Party. Yep, they sure sent a message of non-support to mainstream republicans, didn't they.
                          I'm a tea party member and voted for both McCain and Romney. There were no tea party candidates on the ballot, so I voted for my number two choice.
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                          • #28
                            I'm not saying that neither McCain nor Romney do not have morals and ethics, what I'm saying is that they should have put them aside when they went up to debate a street fighter who has neither and never did. You can turn morals and ethics on or off as the situation dictates. You don't fight under the Marquis of Queensberry rules when your opponent makes it clear he plans to kick you in your gonads. It's true, "If you don't have morals and ethnics prior to the election you certainly aren't going to develop them after the election." We are all experiencing that now. YMMV
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                            • #29
                              The first debate went to Romney. The second was a draw. The third was won by Candy Crowley of CNN. None of that matters, because the conservative republicans did come out and vote for their candidate and handed the election to Obama. That's the truth no matter how you slice it.
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                              • #30
                                Yes, I was quite impressed with Romney after the first debate. Obama looked confused and lethargic, I think he underestimated Romney as Romney was willing to go on the offense. At the second debate I thought Romney held off a bit like he had to show the POTUS some respect but at least he was in the fight. I saw Romney as winning the second debate but it was close. The third debate was a mystery as I saw Romney hold back and didn't mount a vigorous attack which he should have since the second debate was ruled a draw. I was wondering what happened to the "killer instinct", did morals and ethics get in the way? Say what you will about the Candy Crowley debacle but from my seat, Romney had so many targets to attack and didn't. It was almost like Romney had second thoughts about being President. Unlike many other conservatives, I still went out and voted for Romney as I did McCain. Regardless, we all have to go out and vote because if you don't your candidate loses. That's how the game is played. That's how I saw it, you may have seen it differently.

                                Did you mean to say, "because the conservative Republicans did NOT come out and vote . . .?

                                Nonetheless, conservative voters came out in droves during the last midterms, and I hope they come out again in 2016.
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