Fact or Fantasy???

[TheTman]

I had to comment about the President's remark about eventually going to Mars. All this is probably for the amusement of the public.

I've heard several times from former workers at Lockheed' skunk works, that we already have the technology to travel beyond the stars. That anything shown on Star Trek or other science fiction movies, we already have and are using. That we have aliens or demons or Nephalim, helping us build this technology, and also from technology recovered from ancient Vimayas (Indian flying machines from ages ago). If they had this technology, how did they lose it?
There was a popular story not long ago of finding a Vimaya in Afghanistan, and that several soldiers had vanished attempting to recover it. And that also there was one in the Iraq museum that soldiers made mad dash to recover before it disappeared. I guess they also reverse engineered the propulsion system from the Roswell crash, and others that have been kept secret.

The Star Trek stuff is from former workers now retired from the skunk works. They stay anonymous, and only speak through others they have communicated with. I imagine the government figures most people will think they are just full of baloney. Since most appear on late night radio talk shows and stuff. CNN or Fox would not be allowed to interview these people, so they appear on the talk radio circuit. I don't know if it's true or not, but is interesting to think about. The government wouldn't want us knowing it had these things available at the same time it's pouring funds into NASA on conventional rockets and spacecraft.
I just wonder what all kinds of things are hid from the public. It sure would be fascinating to find out. You hear these fascinating tidbits of info, but have no way to check them out. So you take everything with a big grain of salt.

Many people think that aliens are demons masquerading as aliens from another planet, and that calling out for Jesus Christ to save you during an "alien abduction" has caused them to stop in their tracks and leave.

At one time, I toyed with the idea, that maybe the aliens wanted us to disarm the population, in order to be accepted into some Galactic Alliance or something, but then I got to thinking, that surely they'd want the nukes dismantled first and then the armies to turn in their weapons first. Then I started running across the idea that the aliens were demons masquerading as aliens, and that makes much more sense to me, since I know there are demons since they are mentioned in the Bible, but have never seen an alien. Although the most popular type seems to be the Annuki from this Nibaru planet that comes around every 13,000-26,000 years or so. There was a great leap in technology, in ancient Sumeria, that some attribute to these Annuki, that may come over in space ships when they get close to Earth or something, about like us flying to Mars, only with more advanced technology. I don't know. Could be something to it or not. The story is they need gold to maintain their atmosphere, and they come to Earth and get a bunch while in the vicinity. Some say they engineered the pre-humans at one of the earlier times they visited, to be their workers and mine the gold for them, and that is why we are attracted to gold so much, from the tinkering they did to our DNA. Whatever. All that stuff is out on YouTube if you want to check it out.

What do you think? Anything to the Star Trek stuff? I'm in the maybe, maybe not opinion. I mean who knows what stuff goes on in secret. I wonder who gets to know about things like this? The President, although I'm not sure they get told everything, stuff other Presidents might have labeled as "Need to know" type of info that would only be shared in some emergency situation. Secretary of Defense? Top brass in the CIA? I wonder if any one knows ALL the secrets?

[berettabone]

that's Annunaki.......................................... ......................................

[berettabone]

I tend to go with this train of thought........................................... .........I can understand how someone or something would like our planet. It's a beautiful place, and an alien species may just like it too much. There is no question, that s31t has been flying around in our skies for as long as anybody can remember. There are testimonies, photos, videos, etc. Now, if you subscribe to the theory that someone or something is visiting our planet, then please, don't take anything with flashing lights seriously. Why would an intelligent alien and craft need blinking lights?Now, if you believe that these ufo's are all some kind of gov't made craft, and we have the technology to make, and indeed make these things, then you'd better pay closer attention to the blinking lights. We are probably the only race that flies through the air, and announces itself with blinking lights. The more, the better.

[ripley16]

All I know is... if you see this man... RUN!




If you see this man... Ask him about the aliens.




"KAHRRRRRRRR!!" from Star Trek XIII "The Wrath of Kahr"

[Longitude Zero]

It could be that hyper intelligent life has cruised by and looks upon human intelligence like we look at a meal worm. Both are unworthy of being contacted as they consider us so insignificant like we look upon the meal worm.

[TheTman]

I keep seeing the videos and articles about how the Pope is supposed to introduce some kind of Alien Leader, that will take over control of the Earth. That makes me think that there may be demons masquerading as Aliens. If there are aliens, I think some of their names are Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waxman, Holder, Kagan, and a few others.
Seriously though, a lot of religious folk think aliens ARE demons masquerading as aliens.

It is kind of strange how so many different cultures have made pyramids, or pyramid like structures, and have carvings of some pretty strange looking "people" and things that look kind of like airplanes and rockets. And they do have some actual skulls of some sort of humanoid with a large elongated head. Or else they were some damn good fakes. One theory is that some of the Egyptians wore those long hats to hide their big heads, and they were the ones that built the pyramids. Using some technology that's been lost or was hidden away and never recovered.

There has been a lot of experimentation of disk shaped aircraft with various types of propulsion. The Germans tried to make them, I've seen several attempts at them, published in various magazines. Some have worked fairly well. Well enough they could scare the hell out of some one out alone at night and this thing lands next to them.

Who knows what stuff we have hidden away in secret. I bet we at least have those scramjets that can fly at more than double the speed of anything we currently deploy. Maybe stuff that can fly at the edge or even into space for a short time. The scramjets have to get up to a certain speed, then kick in the ramjets, and the air compresses itself due to the speed of the craft when it's ignited and they can reach some pretty high speeds. They've been talking those up for years, so we probably have a few hidden somewhere. They managed to keep the F-117 hidden until they decided to use it.

If there are aliens, they may not be all that advanced. Think about where we could be in say 100 years. NASA is working on WARP drive systems that could get us to the nearest star in a couple months or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zPOxm6r__A Kind of silly IF we already have that capability, but I imagine there has to be a dog and pony show for the public. Maybe they use "stargates" instead of space ships. Or send a space shuttle thru the stargate. Some things we take for granted these days would be considered magic, 100 years ago, computers, and the internet, cellphones that access the internet, nuclear power and weapons, television, jet airliners, and all the advanced scientific gadgets, and medical equipment. 3d printing of human kidneys (which I hope is able to eliminate the need for organ donors someday), organ transplants, cloning (Maybe they could grow you a new heart, liver or kidney, from your own tissue) . Teleportation of objects is kind of a reality now, with 3D printers, you can send the data to print an object to any 3D printer anywhere in the world. Not quite the same as sending the actual object, but close. We have some types of ray guns, not quite the Buck Rodgers type yet, but that will probably come sooner or later. They use sound for crowd control. And so much other stuff I couldn't begin to list them all. I can't imagine what they could come up with in 100 years.
And we still don't have a freaking flying car at the local Chevy dealer yet, what's up with that? And I've yet to take a vacation on the moon. Funny how technology ends up in totally unexpected places from what they dreamed of back in the 50's and 60's. Although The Dick Tracey watch became the cell phone, which is about to turn into the iWatch. So some of the dreams did happen or are happening.

[yqtszhj]

How do i get obama and Michelle on that first spaceship to mars? Take pelosi too.

[JohnR]

I tend to go with the Douglas Adams model of the universe.

[jeepster09]

How do i get obama and Michelle on that first spaceship to mars? Take pelosi too.

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[dirtengineer]

When do you think Kahr will come out with a phaser?

[TheTman]

I'm sure any hand held laser destructive type device would be limited to the military, the anti-gun crowd would go into hysterics if something like that was made available to the public.

My theory, borrowed from easter philosophy, of the universe is either that it is the sum total of God, or that it exists within the mind of God. Imagine two people conversing with each other in your mind. As long as you keep that thought, those two people are real to each other. Once you quit thinking about them, they are gone. I think our "reality" is much like that.
The universe is seemingly infinite, as is God. I find it fascinating that concentrating the Hubble telescope on a seemingly empty region of space for a period of time, reveals countless new galaxies.
According to the Bible, God spoke the universe, or the Earth at least into existence. "Let there be light" and so forth. Whether those were sounds are thoughts, doesn't really matter.

[sas PM9]

TheTman said ;
"And we still don't have a freaking flying car at the local Chevy dealer yet, what's up with that? And I've yet to take a vacation on the moon. Funny how technology ends up in totally unexpected places from what they dreamed of back in the 50's and 60's. Although The Dick Tracey watch became the cell phone, which is about to turn into the iWatch. So some of the dreams did happen or are happening."

Tim Wilson's "Where the *&%# is my jetpack" comes to mind.

-steve

[downtownv]

I keep seeing the videos and articles about how the Pope is supposed to introduce some kind of Alien Leader, that will take over control of the Earth. That makes me think that there may be demons masquerading as Aliens.

The more this Pope speaks, The more I think he is not Catholic.....

[Armybrat]

The more this Pope speaks, The more I think he is not Catholic.....

So bears don't sh it in the woods after all?

[TheTman]

Pope Francis is a Jesuit, who live by a motto something like, No evil is too great, as long as it accomplishes their goals, or the helps the Church. Murder, blackmail, robbery, are all tools they will use, to further their goals. Most Catholic officials are afraid of them, if they are not one of them. One of the Popes, outlawed them once, and while signing the order, he said this will surely be the death of me. He was poisoned not long afterwards, and one of the first acts of his successor was to reinstate the Jesuit order.
Most of the Catholic Universities, were established and are operated by Jesuits, to give them cover to accomplish there goals. They are another group that you can get a lot of info on the internet about. Some of there schemes have been uncovered and exposed and those can be found pretty easy. They've had a few members in the organization turn on them and tell the stories of what they know to journalists. These people often don't live long after spilling the beans.
They are pretty much the Catholic CIA, DHS, FBI, DOJ, all rolled into one. Only their loyalty is to their leader, and not the Pope. The leader is known as the "Black" Pope, since he wields so much power and influence over the church. I know what you mean Downtown, he sure doesn't act like any other Pope. Trying to get cozy with the protestants, and the muzzies, and the leaders of all the religions. Like he wants to bring everyone back together under the Catholic Church, or perhaps some new religion that incorporates bits of all the others.

Yep, Armybrat, the bears are now using the Porta Pots in the parks.