New World Order -ism

[JohnR]

A bit long, but a useful chronology for the conspiracy-deniers to ponder: http://www.constitution.org/col/cuddy_nwo.htm

[TheTman]

1913 -- The Federal Reserve (neither federal nor a reserve) is created. It was planned at a secret meeting in 1910 on Jekyl Island, Georgia by a group of bankers and politicians, including Col. House. This transferred the power to create money from the American government to a private group of bankers. It is probably the largest generator of debt in the world.

That is no lie. Many of the country's founders warned against creating a private central bank, as it will soak up the wealth of this country, leaving us in massive debt.
Throughout the ages there has always been someone wanting to run the world, from Nimrod, the Egyptians, The Persians, Greeks, Rome (and later the Catholic Church), then the Muslims, The Mongols, Napoleon, Hitler. Someone is always out to conquer the world. Now it's the ultra rich elites of the world. Funny that it's mostly the wealthy and people in high places that want this New World Order. Those that will be well taken care of. But what about the ordinary people? Most likely enslaved to some degree. Many talk of no private property, no businesses, all will be controlled by those in power. And they will establish one religion, so we won't have that to fight about. And of course they will have to disarm America, and any other nation that allows citizens to own firearms, so there can be no resistance, or revolution. We do have a bit of a preview of things to come in the European Union, but that's not very good example of what they really want. I would say the part of Europe that fell under Hitler's control is closer to what they envision. A big reduction in population is part of the plan. They can't have all these common people using up the resources. Possibly a World War III as was written about by Albert Pike would take care of that. He wrote that their would be three world wars necessary to complete the preparations for the New World Order.

The only New World Order I want any part of is when The Messiah returns, which many believe will be 2000 years after his death and resurrection. There may very well be a few years of the this other New World Order before that happens.

[AJBert]

I skimmed through it but didn't read it in entirety. Needless to say, pretty scary stuff!

[muggsy]

Didn't frighten me a bit. You can't rarely get two countries to agree upon anything and you expect to see world domination by a single power? Horse pucky.

[marcinstl]

yadda, yadda, the Rothschild's own america, blah, blah. close down the fed and go back to gold. buy the gold from whoever Ron Paul is fronting for? goldbugs, it's another scam.
go thru the history of the usa- the wars, the crashes, the recessions, the rebuilding and figure out how to do that without the federal reserve bank system. report back with any theories that aren't scams.
(the rich control everything, that's not a conspiracy theory, just fact. politics is just show biz, something to entertain and divert the masses from the fact that the masses control nothing.
good news is that "X-Files" is coming back for 6 episodes, waaah! can hardly wait.......)

[berettabone]

yadda, yadda, the Rothschild's own america, blah, blah. close down the fed and go back to gold. buy the gold from whoever Ron Paul is fronting for? goldbugs, it's another scam.
go thru the history of the usa- the wars, the crashes, the recessions, the rebuilding and figure out how to do that without the federal reserve bank system. report back with any theories that aren't scams.
(the rich control everything, that's not a conspiracy theory, just fact. politics is just show biz, something to entertain and divert the masses from the fact that the masses control nothing.
good news is that "X-Files" is coming back for 6 episodes, waaah! can hardly wait.......)

Something we can agree on.......................................I can skip the X-files

[TheTman]

We've had it pretty easy for quite a stretch, no wars on our shores, economy has been decent. Maybe we are due for some rough times. I'm not going to worry over things I have no control over, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt to take precautions in case things go south in a hurry. Maybe buy an extra bag or beans or rice or canned meat at the store, an extra box of ammo here and there. Keep some containers full of potable water, or a good water purifier and a source of water. Gas tanks kept full.

I do believe there is a "shadow" government that does call the major shots. New World Order, Illuminati, whatever you want to call them. I don't doubt that they are the ones that choose who our leaders will be, or at least narrow it down to two candidates that are basically the same, once you get past minor issues.
The Federal Reserve can manipulate the government threatening to screw with the interest rates. They can cause inflation, recessions. and even another depression. Whatever will make them the most money is the path they will seek to have us follow. War is very profitable to the Industrial-Military complex, and their shareholders.

Mpst of the people in Germany never saw the horrors of WWII coming, until it was too late, and they had given up their rights for "safety". With all the posturing going on over the Ukraine, ISIS and other Jihad minded groups, WWIII might not be that far off. If OPEC decides to start adopting other currencies for oil, the dollar is screwed big time, along with our economy. Either of those will change things dramatically. We can no longer count on all battles being fought on foreign shores, with the way they've left the southern border open for anyone to cross, possibly with a suitcase nuke.

It's best to keep an open mind these days, rather than be caught up in the "Normalcy Bias" that tells us things have never got too bad, and they never will. All empires have fallen. It doesn't help when you have a leader that seems to want it to fall, or change it into something it was never meant to be. A leader that is seen as inept and weak by other world leaders.
A leader that is very friendly with those that would kill us or force us to adopt their religion. A leader who has stripped the military of some of its brightest and most loyal leaders, over whether they would follow the Commander in Chief, or the Constitution, whether they would fire on American citizens or not. I find it disturbing that that question is even being asked, let alone ending careers. What is going on that would end up with the military firing on Americans?

[muggsy]

The last time we had a war on our shore was when Grant took Richmond. (With apologies to my southern friends.)

[b4uqzme]

The last time we had a war on our shore was when Grant took Richmond. (With apologies to my southern friends.)

...guess it depends on your definition of "war".

[JohnR]

Didn't frighten me a bit. You can't rarely get two countries to agree upon anything and you expect to see world domination by a single power? Horse pucky.

Exactly, which is why they are dumbing us down so we're too ignorant to argue (think "scientific consensus" on global warming), and the rest of us they'll just shoot in the back of the head.

Top-down tyrrany can only be imposed by force, and they are well aware of that fact. But a world full of sheep begs for a shepherd.

[muggsy]

You don't have to be smart to argue. I'm living proof. Did that come out right?

[muggsy]

If there is a conspiracy to establish a new world order the powers that be are sure taking there sweet time about it. This has been going on since the time of Woodrow Wilson. To quote that great philosopher Alfred E. Newman, "What me worry?"

[JohnR]

Yup, let your kids and grandkids fight tyranny. It's too hard for us old farts.

[muggsy]

I'm going out in a blaze of glory.

[marshal kane]

. . . A leader that is seen as inept and weak by other world leaders.
A leader that is very friendly with those that would kill us or force us to adopt their religion. A leader who has stripped the military of some of its brightest and most loyal leaders, over whether they would follow the Commander in Chief, or the Constitution, whether they would fire on American citizens or not. . .

The average American voter would NEVER vote for such a leader, RIGHT?