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  • My Tinfoil hat is on too tight. This one has me kind of puzzled.

    We all know the Earth is a 17,000 mile diameter ball hurtling through space orbiting the Sun at 67,000 miles per hour. Or is it?

    I've recently began watching some videos from that propose that the Earth is a flat plane, surrounded on all sides by Antarctica. I started watching these videos expecting to get a good laugh at these idiots and their middle age thinking. But the more I watched the more they started making sense.

    With the Sun and Moon flying around on tracks or something in a dome roofed sky. They give the size of the Sun and Moon to be about 40 miles across instead of the size we have been told all our lives. They have an answer for all the questions I could come up with, like how do the Season's work, how do Sunrise and Sunset work, where do meteors come from and everything else I could think of to ask. They perform a number of experiments that make you go hmmmm, like shining a laser across a 4 mile stretch of water. You would expect the laser to end up about 10 feet above the origination height due to the Earths curvature, but there it was at the same elevation that it left at. They also use telescopes to look at buildings that should be way below the horizon if the Earth is curved, but there they are, at the same height as if you were standing right next to them. Also, water always seeks it flatness, No matter how big of space of water you have, it always appears flat, when if on a round Earth it would have to have something like a 700 mile hump in it between California and Hawaii. Other such things as the horizon always appears flat, no matter how far you can see, with the naked eye, or using telescopes. You will see a ship sail until it's out of sight, but it will never go over the horizon.

    I'm not quite ready to give up and join the flat Earth society or anything, I just thought this was all very interesting. It would mean for one thing, there are no orbiting satellites ready to rain nuclear missiles, or any other weapons down on us, since you can only go so high.

    One interesting experiment you can do yourself, is to try to book a non-stop flight from either South America, or South Africa to Australia or New Zealand. It should be a relatively short flight well within a modern aircraft such as a 777, 767, or even a 747, cruising range, but you will not find a direct non-stop flight. Instead if you leave from South America, you will be routed North to LA, or Chicago or someplace, and then continue your Journey. If you leave South Africa, you will most likely have a layover in Dubai or some other city far to the North. The reason is that on the flat earth. Australia is on the other side of the plane from either South America or South Africa. This is a very easy experiment to try for yourself. You may even find a non-stop flight, but that flight will be changed before it's departure date.

    I'm not going to answer a bunch of questions. If you have a question about how is such and such possible if the Earth is flat, go to YouTube, and type your question into the search box and there will most likely be a video to answer you question. Like I say, I was prepared to get a laugh out of these fruitcakes, but they ended up making a lot of sense, so now I'm just kind of puzzled by it all. Be careful. If you watch these videos, you may get sucked into doubting what you think you know and have been taught all these years. If this is all true, then NASA and the government has a lot of explaining to do. And ever notice that most privately funded space projects seem to fail pretty quickly? Oh well, if it's true, then I'm glad there aren't space based weapon orbiting ready to drop their payloads on us.
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    Ahhh, I see you live in Kansas. That explains a lot

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    • #3
      Wow.

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      • #4
        Time to put the bong down.

        Really.


        Tim

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        • #5
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheTman View Post
            We all know the Earth is a 17,000 mile diameter ball Or is it?

            I've recently began watching some videos from that propose that the Earth is a flat plane,.
            No it isn't. It's about 8000 miles in diameter. You need to quit watching these ridiculous videos. They aren't doing you any good and possibly doing some harm. Let them go. Just say no.
            Last edited by ripley16; 09-17-2015, 10:07 AM.
            Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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            • #7
              hmm I don't know where I got 17,000 miles from. And I don't smoke anything but tobacco, and have an occasional glass of wine. I enjoy watching those weird videos once in awhile, what can I say? Mostly I watch the ones from a couple of pastors I follow, and some news clips from WND, Breitbart, Personal Liberty Digest and some other conservative sites, but I get sidetracked here and there. Like these I thought they would be good for a laugh, but they made some pretty good points. I was amazed at the number of views some of them had. I see one that has over 6 million views, a one with around a half million and many others with 10-50 thousand views. I'm not one to dismiss something just because it goes against conventional wisdom. I don't know if you are religious or not, but a lot of things in the Bible sound pretty far fetched to someone that isn't a believer.

              And what does living in Kansas have to do with anything? I've been to Florida before and ran into plenty of not very bright people. I'm just curious by nature. Science was always one of my favorite subjects. There are plenty of Scientific theories, that some take for granted, though there is no proof, Theories of Evolution, Relativity, Gravity (how it works, not that it exists), The Big Bang, and numerous others that haven't been proven or they wouldn't still be called theories, yet are taken as fact by the majority of people.

              I try not to dismiss anything, without giving the presenter a chance to make his point, no matter what conventional wisdom says. If people didn't question the Status Quo, we'd still be using horses for everything from transportation to farming. Just because something sounds different, and goes against everything we were taught, that doesn't make it false. Look how Evolution was scorned and made fun of when it was first introduced, but is now accepted as fact by the majority of people. I'm one that doesn't believe in it. I'm also not convinced the Earth is 14 billion years old. And I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory, that the Universe just sprang into existence out of nothing, without some intelligent Creator. Does that make me the odd man out, yes. Does it mean I'm crazy because I don't believe as most other people. I don't think so. No Doctor has ever said I was crazy. I just don't believe everything that is fed to me, that can't be proven. Most theories are scientific in nature, and don't affect day to day life anyway. Does it really matter how old the Universe is, or how it came into being? Not really to most people. It may affect some people's faith, but other than that, what difference does it make? Did the dinosaurs die off 75 million years ago, or were those the dragons that were killed in the middle ages? Again, does it matter? Does it matter whether the Earth is flat or not? Not really, except to Governments, and things like NASA, and Observatories, and such that manage to soak up billions in tax dollars. And those that dream of interplanetary travel.

              Look at some videos of women on the "space station", with there hair all crazy looking. Notice that it never moves? That is because large amounts of hairspray keep it wild looking. Compare this to videos of ladies in the free fall simulator aircraft, and watch how their hair moves around naturally in all kinds of ways, instead of being frozen into some weird "zero gravity" hair do. There would be air circulating in the space station, as well as a person's motions that would cause their hair to move, unless it was sprayed until it is frozen into the weird shape they put it in to simulate a zero gravity effect. Also notice that the subject being interviewed seldom moves from the spot they are being interviewed at. You seldom see them floating around the space station, unless they are filming on a zero gravity simulator. And then it will be fairly short snippets of them floating from one spot to another, and then standing still again if the interview continues.

              I'll admit, that this subject is pretty bizarre, and not easy to give it a chance, and for some people to even give it look. Some folks minds are already made up about virtually everything, and nothing will change that.
              As I said earlier, I'm on the fence about it, but at least willing to listen to what people have to say about unusual things that might go against the conventional wisdom, instead of just ignoring topics and thinking that I already know everything worth knowing, and poking fun at someone that disagrees with what I believe. I like to be like a person on a Jury, I'll keep an open mind, and need to be convinced one way or the other before I give my opinion. I'll bet no one has even looked at any videos, and just started poking fun at me for even bringing it up. Here is a short 12 minute video for those that won't do a search for themselves, that gives some support for the Flat Earth. Can you keep an open mind for 12 minutes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4 I don't think anyone is so busy they can't spend 12 minutes to watch a video. It's not the greatest video on the topic, but it's short and gives enough information that it may pique some folk's curiosity.
              Last edited by TheTman; 09-17-2015, 12:28 AM.
              Tom
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              • #8
                Wow I don't have words. I have seen the curvature of the earth. Does that help?
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                • #9
                  My Tinfoil hat is on too tight. This one has me kind of puzzled.

                  Conventional wisdom like Copernicus, Gallileo, Kepler, Isaac Newton, Principia Mathematica, Einstein, gravity? Hubble telescope? ...
                  Rest in peace Muggsy

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                  • #10
                    Must be the chemtrails...

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                    • #11
                      I apologize if I sounded angry and lashed out at some folks. This was to me a light hearted topic that I hoped we could have some fun with, but when some of the comments were more or less personal attacks, I guess I got a little peeved. The you need to put the bong down, and I see you are from Kansas, that explains things.... well I just took them the wrong way. It's been a long day, and I should have waited until tomorrow to check in. I apologize for getting personal with people, and will refrain from that behavior in the future.

                      I thought maybe with all the horrible crap going down that we might have some fun with this. And get away from the serious stuff for a bit. It's kind of a silly topic, but I was amazed at all the answers they had for some tough questions, that I thought maybe we could come up with something to really stump them. I'm playing devil's advocate here. Taking the flat earth side. I've got to get some sleep, I'll check back tomorrow.
                      Tom
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                      • #12
                        I think perhaps I took Old Fat Guy's comment wrong, too. After some sleep I think and hope he was referring to Kansas being so flat, not that we are dumb hicks.

                        Knkali, where was you saw the curvature of the Earth? If it was from an Airliner, its most likely the curvature of the window is the answer you'd get from the flat earthers.
                        Tom
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheTman View Post
                          I think perhaps I took Old Fat Guy's comment wrong, too. After some sleep I think and hope he was referring to Kansas being so flat, not that we are dumb hicks.

                          Knkali, where was you saw the curvature of the Earth? If it was from an Airliner, its most likely the curvature of the window is the answer you'd get from the flat earthers.
                          You are correct, In fact, I even wrote out an example of looking out over the ocean and seeing boats on the horizon, but I deleted it out. What I meant was there isn't much in Kansas besides wheat fields to use as a reference. Glad you understand, I meant no ill will.

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                          • #14
                            Well who knows.....

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                            • #15
                              I've seen the curvature of the earth at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. The cars run the course and dissappear over the horizon.
                              It's a cool place and I hope to go again. Went 3 times to Speed Week helping with cars.

                              You can stand in the pits and look at the viewing area which is about 3 to 4 miles away. Once I thought I'll just walk down there and watch the cars as they go by at top speed. After about 10 steps my buddy mentioned that you know that's 4 miles away, it looked like a few hundred yards. With nothing for visual reference.

                              On the edges the mountains looked in any walking distance but were probably 15 miles or more in places.

                              Course that don't mean the world aint' flat. Could just have a slight curve to it ya know?
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