Trump wants a do over.

[muggsy]

I understand the realities of third party monkeywrenches, but I don't give a rat's patootie about the Republican wing of the One World party. Trump seems to just barely associate with it, and I only associate with it because the non-leftist parties cannot win.

It's also possible that Trump could be the one to break the party system. He would have to snowball and accumulate enough loyalty to take votes away from the GOP. I'm skeptical at this point that he can do it, but he could surprise us all.

You had better give a rats patootie, John. The republican party is the only hope that we have of defeating the socialist democrat party. We've basically had a two party system in the country since the time of Whigs and Tories. The only third party that ever won was the abolitionist party and that was a disaster.

[JohnR]

You had better give a rats patootie, John. The republican party is the only hope that we have of defeating the socialist democrat party. We've basically had a two party system in the country since the time of Whigs and Tories. The only third party that ever won was the abolitionist party and that was a disaster.

How's that been working out in Congress, Muggsy? I can't recall a single thing the GOP has done to slow the country's plunge over the cliff.

[muggsy]

To quote Charles Koch, "The republicans are taking us over the cliff at 70 mph and the democrats are taking us over the cliff at 100 mph." What other choice do you have John?

[TheTman]

I think Trump would only run as a 3rd party candidate if the RNC play dirty tricks on him, like keeping him off the primary ballots in some key states.

I imagine if Trump gets too close to winning the nomination, then he will be terminated anyway. I don't think the powers that be can have someone they can't control as President. Cruz will be challenged about whether he is a natural born citizen or not, only this time the MSM will pile right on, instead of ignoring the issue. Whoever the Republican nominee is, will not only have to fight the Democrat nominee, but massive vote fraud, and crooked voting machines. If Trump does get the nomination, and somehow remains alive, I will vote for him, over whomever the DemocRATS run. I wish that Congress or someone with the power had the courage to arrest Obama and Hillary for their many crimes. Congress won't do anything to Obama, they are afraid they'll be seen as racists. But Hillary should be fair game. She should be running from some fellow inmate in prison, instead of for President. This shows how corrupt our leaders have become. I think right now, Hillary is playing rope a dope, letting Sanders think he is winning, and will make her move when she thinks the time is right. She wants to come on as the underdog, according to Larry Nichols, the man that got Bill elected. And she is running from the same playbook that put Bill into office. In 2008, she either deviated from it, or more likely, the murder of one of her top advisors sent a message that she was to back off. The powers that be wanted Obama in office so he could do what he has done to this country.

What other choice do we have? None I think anyone wants to consider.

[JohnR]

To quote Charles Koch, "The republicans are taking us over the cliff at 70 mph and the democrats are taking us over the cliff at 100 mph." What other choice do you have John?

I wish I knew.

Actually, there is another choice, but if it's discussed in public we get put on watch lists.

[yqtszhj]

.....but if it's discussed in public we get put on watch lists.

Sadly we probably already are.

[yqtszhj]

Here's a sad fact to keep in mind. Whoever is the Republican candidate better be able to defeat hillary and get democratic votes.

Think about this, the "takers" that had 11 year old kids when BO was elected will be getting their kids to vote next election and the kids may be getting their own check now too. So, they will be voting Democrat. I spoke to a school teacher last week and that is exactly what he told me the kids are saying and doing.

So the goal is beat the hildabeast.

[TheTman]

I know several hardcore democrats that are sick of Obama, don't like Hillary, and are supporting Trump. Some don't like Cruz or any of the other Republican candidates, just Trump.