Why Republicans deserve to lose

[SlowBurn]

Clinton's weak spot is unfavorability. People don't like or trust her. Why are we nominating the only person on the planet people like and trust even less?
Louder with Crowder.
http://louderwithcrowder.com/why-rep...serve-to-lose/

[SlowBurn]

This proves Crowder's point loud and clear. We're gonna lose another election we should win going away:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chall...ry?id=37500382

[muggsy]

Personally, I've never made a good decision out of anger. The people are angry at "establishment" republicans, because they feel that they have been lied to and in some cases they have been. The voters of today seek instant gratification and expect a gradual forty year slide toward socialism to be corrected over night. That isn't going happen even if Trump is elected and I certainly hope that he isn't. A president simply doesn't have the power to do what Trump has promised. Not all of those people are voting for Trump because they like him. Many of them see their vote as sending a message to the party elites. A virtual raised middle finger. Nothing good has ever come from a raised middle finger, but plenty of grief has. No one hopes that I'm wrong more than I do, (except possibly, John) but that's been my life experience. We have a chance to elect a rock solid conservative. Instead the vote is going to a forty year liberal democrat. To me it's like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You might as well vote for Hillary.

[JohnR]

I'm not hoping you're wrong any more than anyone else. We're all seeing the political world through a glass darkly. They do a great job of hiding the truth from us.

But look at the GOP voter turnout, it hasn't spiked this much since Reagan. And unlike with the Dems, I don't get any sense that the numbers are due to voter fraud. How anyone can correlate that with the GOP's death is a mystery to me.

As for the president not having the power, Reagan didn't have the power to tear down the Berlin Wall, yet he demanded it and it happened. That's because he had leadership, charisma, and righteousness on his side. If a president or Congressman can't persuade others to come to his side, he's never going to accomplish a thing. That's why people say Cruz is ineffective, because no matter how right he is, he is unable to charm others to his position.

And that's why I say it's not about issues, it's about the person. It's never been about issues. If issues were all it takes, Obama would still be a Chicago community organizer, because he sure never stood for a single issue until he won the Presidency. Hillary would be a former first lady living off revenue from speeches. If you're stuck on issues, you may never find that rare combination of a person who believes in all the same issues as you, who has the leadership and charisma to persuade others to the cause. I believe those who are really running things are making damn sure issues never get resolved, because it's keeping voters focused on the left hand, while the right hand is stealing our wallet.

So what's the answer? What should we look for in a candidate? Someone with good moral standing who we'd trust to uphold and defend the Constitution. And that's it.

[marshal kane]

I will still vote conservative this November regardless of who the nominee is because if a liberal wins, it will be the continuation of the Obama era and the makeup of the Supreme Court will go liberal with those Justices having lifetime jobs.

[OvalNut]

I LOVE how the Republican Establishment is vapor locking on this! Their reign of error is ending and they are front row witnesses to their own demise. As stated above, Republican turnout is huge and driven by Trump. He WILL suck the life out of Democrat Establishment as well by siphoning off a significant portion of their expected voters in the general election, in the same manner that he is driving turnout in the primaries.

Trump 2016


Tim

[Tpepper70]

Been watching this thread. I started really paying attention to politics in 2000. I'm now 45 and, from what I can see and just my view, I see no real difference between Dems and Repubs. I think the talking points are just that, points, with no real substance. I'm not a Trump fan and, frankly, he worries me. Muggsy is right, he can't do what he claims, but he may be able to persuade things to happen, either sweet or as a total jerk. Who knows and will prob depend on the situation. I voted for Cruz here in Texas but I'm not sure he'd be able to sway the powers to be, Congress, to back his plans and, if he can't, we'll have another 4 years of status quo. 40-50 years of liberalism has pretty much screwed this country and I think the only thing that will change it is a hard reset, which prob won't happen in my lifetime. I have a lot of ideas to make things better, but they'd make things worse for others. We shall see. Good thread.

Cruce Dum Spiro Fido

[knkali]

I'm not hoping you're wrong any more than anyone else. We're all seeing the political world through a glass darkly. They do a great job of hiding the truth from us.

But look at the GOP voter turnout, it hasn't spiked this much since Reagan. And unlike with the Dems, I don't get any sense that the numbers are due to voter fraud. How anyone can correlate that with the GOP's death is a mystery to me.

As for the president not having the power, Reagan didn't have the power to tear down the Berlin Wall, yet he demanded it and it happened. That's because he had leadership, charisma, and righteousness on his side. If a president or Congressman can't persuade others to come to his side, he's never going to accomplish a thing. That's why people say Cruz is ineffective, because no matter how right he is, he is unable to charm others to his position.

And that's why I say it's not about issues, it's about the person. It's never been about issues. If issues were all it takes, Obama would still be a Chicago community organizer, because he sure never stood for a single issue until he won the Presidency. Hillary would be a former first lady living off revenue from speeches. If you're stuck on issues, you may never find that rare combination of a person who believes in all the same issues as you, who has the leadership and charisma to persuade others to the cause. I believe those who are really running things are making damn sure issues never get resolved, because it's keeping voters focused on the left hand, while the right hand is stealing our wallet.

So what's the answer? What should we look for in a candidate? Someone with good moral standing who we'd trust to uphold and defend the Constitution. And that's it.

Well said.

[knkali]

Been watching this thread. I started really paying attention to politics in 2000. I'm now 45 and, from what I can see and just my view, I see no real difference between Dems and Repubs. I think the talking points are just that, points, with no real substance. I'm not a Trump fan and, frankly, he worries me. Muggsy is right, he can't do what he claims, but he may be able to persuade things to happen, either sweet or as a total jerk. Who knows and will prob depend on the situation. I voted for Cruz here in Texas but I'm not sure he'd be able to sway the powers to be, Congress, to back his plans and, if he can't, we'll have another 4 years of status quo. 40-50 years of liberalism has pretty much screwed this country and I think the only thing that will change it is a hard reset, which prob won't happen in my lifetime. I have a lot of ideas to make things better, but they'd make things worse for others. We shall see. Good thread.

Cruce Dum Spiro Fido

you are smarter than me. It took me a lot longer to come to that realization

[Tpepper70]

I doubt that knkali, I just started looking at things without blinders on. I was real hopeful a few years ago when a bunch of new congress members were voted in, all running on conservative views and repealing Ocare, and then they sold us out. After that, my mind was made up. Most are the same wolves with different titles. Scary, but just how I see it. There are a few that actually listen to their people, and try hard, but without help can't get anything accomplished. Sad times.

Cruce Dum Spiro Fido

[yqtszhj]

Trump results aside when you look at the hildabeast trust ratings above 40% in areas the people polled must be on crack. I don't put much confidence in the surveys.

If whoever the nominee is will just point out the dirty evedence on the hildabeast and not back off the Republican will win. That was Romney's reason for not winning in my opinion.

[deadeye]

You are 100% right. He limp wristed all the way with Ovomit and now he is attacking the Repub front runner with a vengeance. Maybe because he has been a liberal all along? Most likely enticed to do what he did? I am not a Trump supporter but will vote for whoever gets the nomination. It would HAVE to be better than Hitlery. If not - to quote a very famous person - "At this point what difference does it make?"

[muggsy]

I'm not hoping you're wrong any more than anyone else. We're all seeing the political world through a glass darkly. They do a great job of hiding the truth from us.

But look at the GOP voter turnout, it hasn't spiked this much since Reagan. And unlike with the Dems, I don't get any sense that the numbers are due to voter fraud. How anyone can correlate that with the GOP's death is a mystery to me.

As for the president not having the power, Reagan didn't have the power to tear down the Berlin Wall, yet he demanded it and it happened. That's because he had leadership, charisma, and righteousness on his side. If a president or Congressman can't persuade others to come to his side, he's never going to accomplish a thing. That's why people say Cruz is ineffective, because no matter how right he is, he is unable to charm others to his position.

And that's why I say it's not about issues, it's about the person. It's never been about issues. If issues were all it takes, Obama would still be a Chicago community organizer, because he sure never stood for a single issue until he won the Presidency. Hillary would be a former first lady living off revenue from speeches. If you're stuck on issues, you may never find that rare combination of a person who believes in all the same issues as you, who has the leadership and charisma to persuade others to the cause. I believe those who are really running things are making damn sure issues never get resolved, because it's keeping voters focused on the left hand, while the right hand is stealing our wallet.

So what's the answer? What should we look for in a candidate? Someone with good moral standing who we'd trust to uphold and defend the Constitution. And that's it.

I know you still love me, John. I was just kidding about you wanting me to be wrong. Forgot the smiley face. Reagan brought down the wall by defeating the Russians in an economic cold war through the Star Wars program. In that instance Reagan was a genius. Donald Trump is no genius. Cruz is a genius. Check out his educational background as compared to "The Donald".

[yqtszhj]

You can bet that everything we hear is trying to manipulate us so that the reporting party gets what they want. If the media says trump is good its because they think Hillery can beat him. If the media says trump is dangerous its because he can beat Hillery. The Republican establishment would rather have hillary than Cruz or Trump. There is no integrity in broadcasting or reporting these days. That's what i think anywsy.

[SlowBurn]

Trump results aside when you look at the hildabeast trust ratings above 40% in areas the people polled must be on crack. I don't put much confidence in the surveys.

If whoever the nominee is will just point out the dirty evedence on the hildabeast and not back off the Republican will win. That was Romney's reason for not winning in my opinion.

If you watch Crowder's rant (its pretty entertaining) he points out main reason Romney lost. He was the worst possible candidate Rs could have run. In 2012 Obamacare was the one big thing everyone hated and knew was a catastrophe. EVERYONE hated it. Anyone could have pounded that point home ...except Romney. Romney as governor of Mass was the grandfather of Obamacare. Obamacare was copied almost exactly from Romneycare. So who do Rs nominate? Romney!! And we're being just as self destructive now.