Have you noticed

[muggsy]

Have you noticed that in states that have an open primary where democrats and independents can crossover and vote republican that Trump wins and that in every state that has a closed primary where only registered republicans can vote Trump loses. That should tell you something. In almost every poll Trump loses to Hillary in the general election. That should tell you even more. It's my sincere hope that in the states that have yet to hold their primary that republicans come out to vote for a true conservative, Sen. Ted Cruz, particularly in the states where the winner takes all delegates. We need a rock solid conservative in the white House.

[mr surveyor]

Muggsy .... yes I have noticed the "crossover vote" since this whole primary thing started. I believe it's nothing but the dem's version of "operation chaos". In states where they can either change their party affiliation within an allotted time before both primary and again at general, it has been done a lot .... by both parties in the past. Some states (Texas I know for a fact) there is no "party registration" required, so on primary day when one goes to the polls, they just declare whether they want to vote the dem ticket or the rep ticket, and an election judge steers them to the proper balloting device.

And, even though Texas has no party affiliation requirement for the primary (other than ID proof to verify that the voter is in fact a registered voter, and at the correct precinct polling place) .... Cruz gave trump a royal spanking .... every bit as big as the "huge, amazing victories" trump sneers about.

Just wanted to point out that Texas may be an anomaly in the "open primary" part of your analysis. Other than that, I believe you've nailed it. Democrats stacking the boxes to create havoc.

This brings us to two other issues that just don't seem to be considered with the necessary attention:

1. Even IF the democrats crossing party lines are doing so out of feeling disenfranchised by their "party", and do in fact "join" the Republican party ... is that really a good thing. The term RINO has been tossed around a lot in the last 15-20 years, and rightly so. The Republican party numbers being almost equal to the democrat party numbers, has just about as many moderate, mushy RINOs as the dems have crazy left wing loons. So, to gain the advantage in "numbers", the Republican party will need to keep the current count and add to it 5% or so of the democrat (moderate mushy) defectors.

2. Does anyone really believe that even 1/3 of those party jumpers are going to actually vote "R" in the general election?

And to add, anyone that even thinks the idea of the Republican Party splitting into a 3rd party would ever gain any ground at the federal level is delusional.

hope that was "on topic"


jd

[deadeye]

I have tried to keep an open mind and give both Cruz and Trump time. As time has gone on I've swung more toward Cruz. Not that what I think makes any difference anyway. It will take a long time before we will know who is right. My biggest fear is that things are so divided that once again the conservatives will stay home an not vote if their chosen one doesn't get the nomination. I've found out conservative voters are not the brightest stars in the night heaven. I've tied numerous times to convince folks that by not voting they are helping the other side win. I just get vacant stares. Trump is going to meet with the Republican leaders this week. Should be interesting. Anyway it comes out I will simply vote a straight Republican ticket.

[knkali]

you guys have said something many have pondered.

[mr surveyor]

for the record, I will vote for any alternative to whatever vile, disgusting creature the dems anoint. Hopefully, there will be only ONE alternative come November (to mean no sillyassed, last ditch 3rd party) ..... or it's guaranteed that the "vile, disgusting creature" will take the throne.


jd

[CJB]

Muggs you are factually incorrect.

[muggsy]

Muggsy .... yes I have noticed the "crossover vote" since this whole primary thing started. I believe it's nothing but the dem's version of "operation chaos". In states where they can either change their party affiliation within an allotted time before both primary and again at general, it has been done a lot .... by both parties in the past. Some states (Texas I know for a fact) there is no "party registration" required, so on primary day when one goes to the polls, they just declare whether they want to vote the dem ticket or the rep ticket, and an election judge steers them to the proper balloting device.

And, even though Texas has no party affiliation requirement for the primary (other than ID proof to verify that the voter is in fact a registered voter, and at the correct precinct polling place) .... Cruz gave trump a royal spanking .... every bit as big as the "huge, amazing victories" trump sneers about.

Just wanted to point out that Texas may be an anomaly in the "open primary" part of your analysis. Other than that, I believe you've nailed it. Democrats stacking the boxes to create havoc.

This brings us to two other issues that just don't seem to be considered with the necessary attention:

1. Even IF the democrats crossing party lines are doing so out of feeling disenfranchised by their "party", and do in fact "join" the Republican party ... is that really a good thing. The term RINO has been tossed around a lot in the last 15-20 years, and rightly so. The Republican party numbers being almost equal to the democrat party numbers, has just about as many moderate, mushy RINOs as the dems have crazy left wing loons. So, to gain the advantage in "numbers", the Republican party will need to keep the current count and add to it 5% or so of the democrat (moderate mushy) defectors.

2. Does anyone really believe that even 1/3 of those party jumpers are going to actually vote "R" in the general election?

And to add, anyone that even thinks the idea of the Republican Party splitting into a 3rd party would ever gain any ground at the federal level is delusional.

hope that was "on topic"


jd

On topic it was, JD. I believe that Texans went for Cruz, because they know a good man when the see one. Utah another winner take all state is going to Cruz with Cruz taking 57% of the vote and "The Donald" running dead last behind Kasich at 17 percent. The people of Utah must know something, too.

[muggsy]

Muggs you are factually incorrect.

I thought that I was factually incorrect once, but I was mistaken. If I am factually incorrect then Fox News screwed up, too. What man could argue with Anna Kooiman?

[JohnR]

Florida has closed primaries and Trump won.

[CJB]

That was my thot 2

[muggsy]

Florida has closed primaries and Trump won.

Big deal. One exception. In Florida you can change your party affiliation up to 29 days before the primary and change back again up to 29 days before the general election. Can you say Operation Chaos?

http://dos.myflorida.com/elections/f...r-information/

[JohnR]

You're attempting to prove that Trump's support is coming from America-hating liberal Democrats. Got evidence? Every source I've read or heard says Trump's support is coming from ordinary working Americans who put country over party. The more the USS Trump steams onward, the more his detractors sound like Captain Queeg.

[JohnR]

Trump names some advisers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...shington-post/

Are they America-hating Marxists and Muslim Brotherhood plants? Not that I can tell.

[SlowBurn]

I'll admit Walid Phares is good. Not familiar with the others.

[mr surveyor]

all I can say for sure, trump himself bragged that some 20k democrats pushed the button for him ..... in one state.

I'm just not sure about begging currently disenfranchised democrats to join what I thought was to be a conservative revival movement. It's kinda like having big city out of state-ers move into your Southern rural neighborhood and attempt to change everything for them to feel more like what they left behind. All I have to do is visit Austin to see the decrepit decline.


jd