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  • #31
    Originally posted by mr surveyor View Post
    the statement made about "walking in step" is a CHOICE. If the American citizens would get off their butts and become active .... and I mean active ... in their local politics - city, county, state - they would actually exercise the voice that our form of representative government requires to work properly. As prosperity increases, apathy increases. When day to day political apathy reaches it's high, the PEOPLE have failed themselves and no longer act like guard dogs and allow the fox into the henhouse. That's exactly where we've come to, at least in the last 8 years, and we should have awakened long before November 2008.

    The system is not corrupt, the voters have been too lazy. Apathy, immorality, greed and every other disgusting human trait has saturated our "society" (term used loosely due to the conditions).

    You can't "take the country back" by just getting all worked up over one election every four years. It has to start at home.


    jd

    Well said!
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    • #32
      Guess I'm a born rabble rouser, the more we whine and slander Trump the more I want to vote for him.

      I saw a dudes article can't find it now who suggested the perfect setup was a Trump/Cruz ticket, then in 8 years if he's good we do a Cruz/_____ ticket. Know it won't happen but sounded good to me.

      Wait, what am I doing in the politics sections. Show me back in the 380 pocket carry thread.
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      • #33
        Bawanna, it ain't slander if what is said about Trump is true. Trump hasn't threatened to sue me yet. Now, what's the problem with that .380?
        Last edited by muggsy; 03-26-2016, 04:47 AM.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
          Bawanna, it ain't slander if what is said about Trump is true. Trump hasn't threatened to sue me yet. Now, what the problem with that .380?
          That was a joke son. Everybody knows bawanna don't carry no mouse gun and he Shirley don't carry no gun at all in his pocket ever.
          http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
          In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
          Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
          Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
          Cue sound of Head slap.

          RIP Muggsy & TMan

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          • #35
            Well one thing for sure, Mrs. Trump as First Lady certainly would be a vast improvement over what we have now.
            A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
            -Rudyard Kipling

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
              That was a joke son. Everybody knows bawanna don't carry no mouse gun and he Shirley don't carry no gun at all in his pocket ever.
              I was about to say if you were going to the .380 thread you needed to see a doctor. You carry a blade bigger than that.

              To your original rebel rouser statement im with you. I heard a certain loud mouth former Reagan admin person on talk radio today and he was saying if Trump won the primary that the dems would win the white house, both houses of Congress, and all the old liberal Supreme Court Justices would retire so Hillery could apoint young liberals to control the country. Complete BS but it was obvious that his statements were to try to keep the old world Republicans in control and he didn't really like Cruz either and wanted a brokered convention. Thats the whole reason Trump is as big as he is.

              Makes me like Trump even more. Washington and the country better wake up. Whether you like Limbaugh or not he had an interesting take on the whole situation that the Republican elite would rather see the hildabeast than Trump or Cruz because either one would ruin their private party in Washington.

              BEAT THE HILDABEAST!
              The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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              • #37
                Trump is as big as he is because people are voting for him out of anger. I don't know about you, but I've never made a good decision out of anger. In fact, some of my worst decisions were made in anger. Vote with your head, not your heart. If you don't, the one you screw just might be yourself, yqtszhj. By the way is your screen name pronounced just like it sounds?
                Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                • #38
                  Anyone think Trump might be a mole for Hillary?
                  A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
                  -Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #39
                    Yes!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Armybrat View Post
                      Anyone think Trump might be a mole for Hillary?

                      I've suspected since last summer that his whole candidacy has been a somewhat covert shill for his klinton friends. He's done nothing but blow a lot of hot air about a few of the major hot topic issues to sound "engaged", then begin to destroy one candidate after the other with silly accusations .... and that started long before the first primary/caucus events. He has managed to not only fracture the Republican party, but also (even now apparently) whined that if the R party doesn't "treat him fairly" (?) he will throw a tantrum and do a third party thing ... because he has the money (or whatever other nonsense he chooses to spew at the moment). And I think we ALL know that any attempt to do a "Ross Perot move", would guarantee a dem win in November. Mr. trump has given me no confidence in his sincerity as a "conservative" . None.

                      jd
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                        ..... yqtszhj. By the way is your screen name pronounced just like it sounds?
                        Yep, you say it just like it sounds.

                        I wont vote out of anger, the previous statement was just observing the attitudes of the Republican elites. As a party they have a condescending arrogant attitude and better get their act together. The rise of Trump and Cruz is solely a result of the elites actions. Now don't get me wrong, there are a few good ones committed to principal but most are only a show. There is no integrity at all.

                        Here is an example to make my point. Google Republican Governor Robert Bentley of Alabama. He just got busted for fondling one of his advisors and is now claiming that nothing was inappropriate. There is even audio out there of him talking to her (provided by his family.) He came into office as "Mr. Values" and now that he has been caught, and his wife already divorced him over it, he wont even admit he did anything wrong. I could live with the fact he's stupid but come on governor baptist deacon declaring family values, confess you screwed up! Otherwise your just like Bill Clinton.

                        Honestly, I fear that it may be too late for the nation anyway but I'll keep voting to try to fix it. Got to give it an effort.

                        But I'm happy anyway. Just got a riding mower so I dont have to push the old mower around the yard this year. Life is good.
                        The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

                        Want to see what will be the end of our country as we know it???
                        Visit here:
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                        • #42
                          yqtszhj (if that's your real name), that is a good case for exactly why I believe getting involved at the local level is so important. Most candidates at the upper level of state or federal offices, with possible exception of the Senate, are folks that have prior political experience .... many of which started at city/county level (obviously not all). A "local community" has the first obligation to thoroughly vet candidates .... in other words, the folks that know them personally, or the folks that have enough solid evidence of the candidates character, knowledge, moral values, etc. The fact that some slip through, and those like slick willie that were given a free pass, is just a sign of the possible end of our society. If all of the morally stable folks in the country would take elections seriously, all the way down to the local community level (and including particularly "school board"), and quit whining only during the every four year cycle of the POTUS campaign, this country would have a chance of survival and revival. The one guy in the White House is just a small, but important, part of our concerns.

                          It just may be too late in our historical moral decline to educate and inspire enough people to get off their butts and fend for themselves politically .... every day, and not just once every other even numbered year.


                          jd
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                          • #43
                            Your precisely correct Mr. Surveyor, sadly those of us who still have morals and ethics are completely outnumbered by those who have none and only care about the give me, give me part of government.

                            One of their guys Bernie was in Seattle last night at our huge baseball stadium. Packed and lined up all day long even though he didn't speak till 7 or so. Who are all those people? What do they think. Do they think.

                            The witch who should be on the bus headed for a super max prison is super popular and as much as I hate it I suspect she'll win. It the puppet controllers destiny.

                            We don't give up, I'm active in local which is where most of the stuff the feds deal with should remain, but my optimism is waning horribly.
                            http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                            In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                            Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                            Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                            Cue sound of Head slap.

                            RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                            • #44
                              Well said Mr. Surveyor. I agree with getting involved st the local level too. We just had a school board change that needed to happen. Although the best thing about the person that won was at least the old person was gone.

                              All that said, the most important thing is beat the hildabeast.
                              The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

                              Want to see what will be the end of our country as we know it???
                              Visit here:
                              http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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                              • #45
                                yqtszhj, (I hope that I pronounced that correctly) there are rotten apples to be found in every barrel. Throw them out. Our founding fathers warned us to only vote for people of high moral character. If we don't we will lose our republic. From his actions, do you believe that Donald Trump is a man of high moral character? If we vote for people like him we only have ourselves to blame for our downfall. We were warned.
                                Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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