Flight 804

[MBSL500]

There is now speculation that Flight 804 went down due to something OTHER than the result of a terrorist's bomb.
If that proves to be the case and the tragedy was not due to terrorism, and you are still not convinced that Trump's half cocked mouth regarding the crash is dangerous to America, you need therapy.

Yes, you might despise Hillary and Obama.
Obama did not get my vote(s) and neither will Hillary in November.
But to continue to dismiss all the idiotic and potentially dangerous crap that pours out of his mouth because you don't like Hillary is as dangerous to our Democracy as Donald Trump.
Open your eyes.

[RolandD]

Trump is a cartoon villain

[deadeye]

I agree the problem is obvious. Problems are easy to see. What do you recommend we do about it as solutions are not so easy.

[Bawanna]

He's got my vote. No other options. Not my fault.

A vote for anybody else or no vote at all is a vote for Hillary. Open your eyes.

[getsome]

There's one thing for certain, the next President of the United States will be a disaster for the country...That being said I must vote for Trump in order to hang on to my 2nd amendment rights which to me is the most important thing this election will decide...

[Bawanna]

If Hillary is elected the disaster will continue. If Trump wins the current 8 year disaster will end.
It may be a new/different disaster but has to be improvement over the current imposter.
It simply can't get any worse.

Hater's gonna hate but I'm gonna give him a chance. I didn't give Ovomit a chance since I knew he was a pathetic egotistical piece of excrement with an ugly wife before he was elected. Turns out I was right.

[MBSL500]

There's one thing for certain, the next President of the United States will be a disaster for the country...That being said I must vote for Trump in order to hang on to my 2nd amendment rights which to me is the most important thing this election will decide...

I have heard the same thing since the Carter Administration.
If we vote for X we will lose 2nd amendment rights.
That myth is perpetuated by the gun and ammo manufacturers
The more frightened gun owners are about losing their rights.... the more they hoard.
The more they hoard, the higher the gun / ammo costs and ultimately higher manufacturer profits.
Do you remember paying triple for a high cap magazine and almost double for an AR a few years ago?
Fear and paranoia is best thing in the world if you're in the gun business.

I now own more guns than I did twenty years ago.
Obama has been the president almost eight years and I can still walk into a gun store / gun show and walk out with a PM9 in less than five minutes.
I still have high capacity magazines and a AK in my safe.
My wife and I now have concealed carry permits that we not permitted to have under either the Bush 1/2 or R. Reagan admins.
It a safe bet that Trump doesn't know a barrel from a slide and probably hasn't shot a gun in fifty years.

People need to open their eyes and stop being single issue voters.
Do you really feel comfortable, knowing Trump's temperament, in control of our nuclear arsenal?
PLEASE try and answer that without the knee jerk reaction to invoke the name "Hillary".

[Bills1873]

I agree the problem is obvious. Problems are easy to see. What do you recommend we do about it as solutions are not so easy.

Can you answer this, MBSL? I cannot.

[MBSL500]

If Hillary is elected the disaster will continue. If Trump wins the current 8 year disaster will end.
It may be a new/different disaster but has to be improvement over the current imposter.
It simply can't get any worse.

Hater's gonna hate but I'm gonna give him a chance. I didn't give Ovomit a chance since I knew he was a pathetic egotistical piece of excrement with an ugly wife before he was elected. Turns out I was right.

Are you able to see the irony in your post?
You represent the typical Trump follower.
You really have nothing to say, no policies to quote and you offered not a single compelling reason why you like him.
Nothing but adolescent hate filled platitudes.
You even lowered yourself to the point of criticizing the looks of a man wife.

I prefer to debate with adults.
I will not debate with you.

[MBSL500]

Can you answer this, MBSL? I cannot.

It's too late.
There were solutions available a few months ago....but the naive flocked to Trump like teenage girls to a Bieber concert.
All because he promised to save white middle class America from marauding Mexicans, Muslims and gun haters.
It didn't matter to the gullible that he didn't stand a chance in hell of accomplishing his promises.
They bought into his bullsh*t and let the other 15 qualified candidates get lost in Trump's lies.
It's too late....a lose canon with a big mouth or the ultimate Washington Insider.
Good job republicans.

[Bawanna]

Thank god for that. I never said I liked Trump nor did I say I'm a follower.

He's clearly the lesser of two evils. I do hate Hillary and the person you loosely identify as a man does have an ugly wife.

Shock us all and say something positive for once. Anything at all will do.

Give it some good thought, it might be a parting shot.

[deadeye]

I'll ask it again. So with all the talk aside what is your answer? We have got to have a change big time. A third party candidate cannot win. I didn't vote for Trump in the primary but will vote for him in the general. Anything to stop Hillary. You keep saying you are not for Hillary but will not vote for Trump. It's going to be one or the other so open YOUR eyes. If you want to do something that will result in Hillary getting elected, go ahead. The Germans had their guns - until they didn't as did the English and Australians.

[items]

The following shows Clinton stance on guns. Combine that with the fact that if she wins she may bring in some more congressmen and senators that think along her lines - and then add in the fact that she'd be able to bring in more that one Supreme Court judge (especially if she stays for 8 LONG years because some of the judges are OLD). The statements made here are incredible to some that don't agree with that point of view - along with making statements about how some are immature for their words expressed here on a gun forum. I could also say that badmouthing others here and stating the "holier than thou" response is doing the same thing as others are doing here, but instead of badmouthing others that will never read any posts here - decides to badmouth fellow posters

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Hil...un_Control.htm

[MBSL500]

I'll ask it again. So with all the talk aside what is your answer? We have got to have a change big time. A third party candidate cannot win. I didn't vote for Trump in the primary but will vote for him in the general. Anything to stop Hillary. You keep saying you are not for Hillary but will not vote for Trump. It's going to be one or the other so open YOUR eyes. If you want to do something that will result in Hillary getting elected, go ahead. The Germans had their guns - until they didn't as did the English and Australians.

*I* am going to vote my conscious, not the lesser of two evils.
Both options are crap sandwiches.
You can vote for the one you hate the least if you'd like.
I will vote for the one whom *I* believe will be the best for America.
I am a Libertarian, not a democrat or republican.

Regarding guns:
I have heard the same fear tactic from republicans for f'ing longer than ever.
X will take away our guns if elected president.

Don't panic. Despite all the fear, paranoia and efforts by the republican party though-out the years, it didn't happen.
Not even close. Not even an itty bitty teenie itsey bitsy bit close.
It didn't happen under Carter, it didn't happen under Clinton, it didn't happen under Obama...and it won't happen under the next president, regardless of who is elected.

[downtownv]

It's too late.
There were solutions available a few months ago....but the naive flocked to Trump like teenage girls to a Bieber concert.
All because he promised to save white middle class America from marauding Mexicans, Muslims and gun haters.
It didn't matter to the gullible that he didn't stand a chance in hell of accomplishing his promises.
They bought into his bullsh*t and let the other 15 qualified candidates get lost in Trump's lies.
It's too late....a lose canon with a big mouth or the ultimate Washington Insider.
Good job republicans.

Ah, just for sh!ts and giggles WHO was you preferred candidate?