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  • #16
    Florida -

    Signs are meaningless. The most they can do is ask you to leave IF you somehow divulge you are carrying a weapon. Don't divulge!

    Alcohol - "that portion of an establishment" - making most of its business from sellin' booz to be consumed on the premises. Roughly interpreted as - if you're at a table, and they serve food in the place, you're ok. Don't belly up to the bar, even to eat at the bar.

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    • #17
      Was it a Judas Priest concert?

      It's not illegal to carry into a drinking establishment in Kansas. It is illegal if you blow over .08 or if you have been drinking, are under the limit but the cop thinks you're being a jackass.
      None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. - Goethe

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      • #18
        No, wasn't Judas Priest, I don't think I could take that noise anymore. It was 86 year old BB King. He told stories as much as he played, but was cool to see a guy that age still performing. I'd rather take a chance on getting kicked out of a concert, than wander around downtown unarmed in the middle of the night.
        Tom
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        HY*NDAI is to cars, what Caracal, Hi-Point, and Jennings is to handguns. The cars may or may not run ok, but the corporation SUCKS.

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        • #19
          Here the law is that you can carry in an establishment that serves alcohol, but you can't drink. The weird part is that you can have up to .8 blood alcohol, same as driving. So I could drink a beer, strap on a gun and head out to a bar. This is an important part of the law. With a zero tolerance rule one could not use cold medicine or any other products with trace amounts or alcohol.

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          • #20
            Sometimes ya just gotta do what ya gotta do. Suppose something did happen and you wearn't prepared to handle the situation. How bad would you be kickin your own a**?
            To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.


            SHOOT STRAIGHT, RIDE SAFE

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RodeoX View Post
              Here the law is that you can carry in an establishment that serves alcohol, but you can't drink. The weird part is that you can have up to .8 blood alcohol, same as driving. So I could drink a beer, strap on a gun and head out to a bar. This is an important part of the law. With a zero tolerance rule one could not use cold medicine or any other products with trace amounts or alcohol.


              and what state would that be?
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              • #22
                In Kansas you can carry into a plain ole bar. You can drink up to .08 BAC.
                I was surprised that pain/anxiety/and some other medications are legal as long as you're on the prescribed dosage. (A friend needs quite a bit or pain medications for major back and neck damage, but he got his permit ok, and checked to make sure it was ok to carry while being on his meds.) Street junkies and such and habitual drunkards are not permitted to possess a firearm, let alone have a CC permit.
                Tom
                Live today, tomorrow may not come!
                Boberg XR9S
                Kahr CW40
                Springfield Armory 1911
                Dan Wesson Revolver

                HY*NDAI is to cars, what Caracal, Hi-Point, and Jennings is to handguns. The cars may or may not run ok, but the corporation SUCKS.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by thetmanski View Post
                  Street junkies and such and habitual drunkards are not permitted to possess a firearm, let alone have a CC permit.
                  Yeah but they sure do have firearms. We need more gun control.
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                  "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
                  --Thomas Jefferson (1764).

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                  • #24
                    Ya gotta love Florida, not only can you legally carry in a business selling nothing but alcohol, you can even get your frozen daiquiri to go from the drive through window...Now how great is that!!!!...
                    " An armed society is a polite society".... Robert A. Heinlein

                    Born under a bad sign with a blue moon in your eyes.......

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mr surveyor View Post
                      and what state would that be?
                      Wisconsin. As a side note, the law changed after my CC training. Originally one could drink in a bar up to .08 blood alcohol.

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                      • #26
                        In Virginia we can CC in an establishment that serves alcohol but we cannot consume it. Not sure about the BAC level...but I do try to stay sober if I'm carrying.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LMT42 View Post
                          Isn't it illegal in most states to carry anywhere that alcohol is served?

                          My local range doesn't allow anyone to enter with a loaded gun (CC or otherwise). I understand there are a lot of idiots in this world, but it still seems rather hypocritical to me.
                          I was thinking of hypocritical things earlier today. My 8 year old daughter decided to broadcast to my anti gun parents while in a restaurant that I was carrying not sure who heard and who didn't. Anti gun people don't like guns because "guns kill people". However, I was surrounded by people cramming their mouths full of heart stopping cheese, liver-killing alcohol, then likely getting in their body-smashing 2 ton autos on the way out. I tried to reason with my parents that although I was carrying for protection at the moment I also enjoy shooting targets as sport, just like football, where you can ask Dan Utley how dangerous that sport can be, or baseball, where i forget the name but a player was killed in MLB long ago by an errant pitch in the head and from time to time little leaguers have been killed taking a ball in the chest. Basically the main premise of baseball is quite similar in that play starts when the pitcher hurls a projectile toward another person as hard as he can. Or ask Dale Earnhardt and someone else can't remember about the dangers of racing. So yes guns kill people, but they are also part of sports that can kill people just as easily. Hypocrites. All of them.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LMT42 View Post
                            My local range doesn't allow anyone to enter with a loaded gun (CC or otherwise). I understand there are a lot of idiots in this world, but it still seems rather hypocritical to me.
                            I won't go to the range without. There has been more than one guy rent a gun to commit suicide at the indoor ranges around here. I don't want someone to rent a gun to have fun gunning down the people on the firing line for fun. I carry at any range I go to anymore.

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                            • #29
                              In NC I can't even legally carry into Applebee's or anywhere that serves alcohol at all. The law stipulates that you can't carry and consume any alcohol at all. But here, you can't even have a meal and carry.
                              Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.
                              C. S. Lewis


                              They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                              Benjamin Franklin

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by getsome View Post
                                Ya gotta love Florida, not only can you legally carry in a business selling nothing but alcohol, you can even get your frozen daiquiri to go from the drive through window...Now how great is that!!!!...
                                I know you were joking - but I'll clarify for those with no sense of humor.

                                Alcohol only establishment - no.
                                Alcohol and food establishment - yes, but dont sit "at the bar", even to eat.
                                Frozen daiquiri to go in the drive thru - yes, but only for 1/2 hour preceding rush hour, and 1/2 hour after rush hour, Monday thru Friday.

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