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    Todays USA Today
    Here it comes.... the re-examination of the most successful gun law is going to go thru the wringer! :31:
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  • #2
    Comes down to some think the criminals have or should have more rights than their victim. I've wondered just how far do the people that are against the SYG laws think the victim should run in order not to endanger the criminal.

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    • #3
      Link?

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      • #4
        Dogman I have read of politicians in some areas that say you must never use force against any opponent. You must flee and never defend yourself because the attacker is just a misunderstood/poverty driven haplless soul.

        For me SYG is a great equalizer. Criminals should fear the citzens and never the other way around.
        Wake Up...Grow Up...Show Up...Sit Up...Shut Up...Listen Up

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        • #5
          Baaa! Just move along, sheeple! Your fellow man is just trying to survive. He just wants to share your bounty. Don't be so selfish!!

          T.I.C.

          YMMV

          Not MHO

          Wynn
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Longitude Zero View Post
            Dogman I have read of politicians in some areas that say you must never use force against any opponent. You must flee and never defend yourself because the attacker is just a misunderstood/poverty driven haplless soul.

            For me SYG is a great equalizer. Criminals should fear the citzens and never the other way around.
            Those are the same politicians that want to deny everyone else the right to protect their families and home but yet they want armed guards for themselves.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dogman View Post
              Those are the same politicians that want to deny everyone else the right to protect their families and home but yet they want armed guards for themselves.
              Funny how that works. Do as I say not as I do.
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              • #8
                I'm still trying to figure out how they link the Zimmerman/Martin incident to "Stand Your Ground" legislation???

                According to witnesses Zimmerman was on the ground, being pounded by Martin which is a clear case of Assault and Battery. Zimmerman was on the ground unable to retreat (a component of Stand Your Ground) and the level of the attack would raise to the point of concern for one's safety or even life. If Zimmerman is telling the truth and Martin was going for his sidearm, then Zimmerman had every right to defend himself up to and including deadly force.

                The individual's right to self-defense is protected Constitutionally by the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 14th Amendments of the US Constitution. This strikes me as being nothing more then the Left trying to use the courts to redefine what "IS, IS" again to eliminate a law that they don't like.

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                • #9
                  Wouldn't this be a state's rights issue since we don't have a national SYG law (except those rights granted in the Constitution/Bill of Rights)?
                  On the internet, the number of posts do not correlate to actual knowledge.
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                  • #10
                    Affirmative Mr. Surveyor.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MW surveyor View Post
                      Wouldn't this be a state's rights issue since we don't have a national SYG law (except those rights granted in the Constitution/Bill of Rights)?
                      Do they still use those old documents?
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                      • #12
                        That old U.S. "rag" is being ammended... or thrown away... with just one more Liberal appointed judge:



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                        Wynn
                        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                        Thomas Jefferson said

                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                        and

                        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                        • #13
                          Gotta go chill out!

                          Tomorrow is "old farts" day at the range. Think I'll practice my SYG at 7, 15 and 25 yards.
                          On the internet, the number of posts do not correlate to actual knowledge.
                          The notch is supposed to be there as well as the bulge at the front of the frame!
                          You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws.





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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Longitude Zero View Post
                            For me SYG is a great equalizer. Criminals should fear the citzens and never the other way around.
                            +1...very well stated!
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                            • #15
                              From USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...und/55480352/1
                              I found this article at "The Root" (I think it's a webzine for non-whites):
                              http://www.theroot.com/blogs/us-comm...nd-your-ground
                              Detroit Free Press: http://www.freep.com/article/2012061...sey=nav%7Chead
                              Tri-Valley-Central (an Arizona based webzine)
                              http://www.trivalleycentral.com/arti...7144815254.txt
                              The Palm Beach Post:
                              http://www.trivalleycentral.com/arti...7144815254.txt

                              Again, I don't see where having a young man sucker punch you, then jumping on top of you and slamming your head into the pavement, qualifies as standing your ground. It seems more like a common case of self defense.

                              Of course it is going to be portrayed as a racist law, that allows whites to kill members of other races by "standing their ground".
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