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  • I'm not a big fan of the NRA, but

    I thought this was a good speech.
    We'll see what the so called pro gun liberal Dems like Harry Reid and Patrick Leihy and others that the NRA endorsed over pro gun conservatives during election races will do

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/wa...-trade-treaty/

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    Not to worry. The four million members of the NRA have the sorry behinds of the other 96 million gun owners covered, but were getting awfully damn tried of carrying them by ourselves.
    Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

    Life Member - NRA
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    • #3
      I wish there were a way to get the bottom line real facts about the NRA. My father became a life member when he was fairly young for less than $100 and hounded me until he finally gave up. Since I read as much against them as for them and I'm simply confused.

      Same with AARP. I understand they used to be strong conservative but now they seem to support everything I'm against.

      So, I haven't signed up with either. Have to say I have leaned toward the NRA but for all the junk mail they send out. I did join AARP several years ago and they too sent what seemed like 2lbs a week of stuff.

      Gee it must be me cause that's the same reason I stopped contributing to church ministry. I sign up for a small amount and they send me twice that in mailings begging for more. So I figure I'm doing my part by not joining and saving them all that postage.
      •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
      • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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      • #4
        I will never understand how you can own a single firearm and NOT be a member of the NRA. I'm sure folks have their reason, but would LOVE LOVE LOVE to know how on earth they justify it.

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        • #5
          Not really happy with NRA but joined for the simple reason is I do have guns and feel it goes hand in hand with gun ownership.

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          • #6
            Thing is, if anyone is going to throw their weight around and make a difference for gun owners, it is the NRA. You might not agree with everything they do or back, but you better believe the folks in DC fear them.
            “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”
            “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
            --George Mason



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            Got that DC?

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            • #7
              In case you haven't noticed, the NRA has a policy of endorsing the incumbent candidate over the challenger -- EVEN WHEN THE CHALLENGER IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND THE INCUMBENT IS A DEMOCRAT.

              There are other PRO-2A organizations in this country that are less interested in advancing their own lobbying power and are more interested in supporting/protecting/advancing our 2A rights. Gun Owners of America and Grass Roots North Carolina are two that immediately come to mind.

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              • #8
                The NRA is just a huge fund raising organization stoking the flames of fear to ensure more prosperous fund raising. AARP has become just as guilty. Both organizations are only about themselves.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dkmatthews View Post
                  In case you haven't noticed, the NRA has a policy of endorsing the incumbent candidate over the challenger -- EVEN WHEN THE CHALLENGER IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND THE INCUMBENT IS A DEMOCRAT.
                  That's my recent issue.
                  e.g. The NRA endorses supposedly pro gun, liberal democrat incumbent Harry Ried over pro gun, conservative republican. challenger Sharon Angle. Why? Because he helped open a shooting range in Vegas? That race was close. The NRA didn't need to step in to endorse one pro gunner over the other. It needed to step aside. IMO we have many other issues to address to get this country healthy again. We needed to have Prince Harry dethroned as leader of the senate, so that he's no longer a stumbling block.
                  We'll see if Harry and his other pro gun dems stick to there guns or vote with their party, along with some anti gun reps. to get the 2/3s vote to pass the UN measure.

                  I've been a member of the NRA since 1971, yes I belong, strength in numbers . I've seen and read of the NRA's trying to sacrifice one group for the benefit of another.
                  e.g. As a bargaining chip the NRA almost threw the handgun and assault type rifle members to the dogs because of pressure from long gun, hunting members. they said "there wasn't any sporting use for them"
                  Remember this organization is The National Rifle:4: Association.

                  But attitudes changed when handgun and shortly after assault rifle, action competition became multimillion dollar industries. :86:

                  And then there's the NRA's half hearted attempt to block the NFA :33:

                  I was reading my August issue of the American Rifleman, on page 16 there's an article titled "Your dedication pays off" It shows pictures of politicians that are pro gun supporters. All of them are republicans. Where's the pictures of the NRA endorsed democrats like Harry Ried and others?

                  I certainly hope that the NRA hasn't shot us in the foot with it's democratic endorsements.

                  Let the flaming begin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CrabbyAzz View Post
                    The NRA is just a huge fund raising organization stoking the flames of fear to ensure more prosperous fund raising. AARP has become just as guilty. Both organizations are only about themselves.
                    Now that's extreme! The NRA helped to allow us to have some of what we have. Depending on where you live. I may not be fan but I recognize the need for it. It an old established organization with a strong lobby that I don't think can be displaced

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chrish View Post
                      I will never understand how you can own a single firearm and NOT be a member of the NRA. I'm sure folks have their reason, but would LOVE LOVE LOVE to know how on earth they justify it.
                      DAD!!! You're ALIVE!!!!! Chrish, are you 6'4", built like a lumberjack, have a big grin, drink good scotch and love to tell hunting stories? Huh?
                      •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
                      • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by chrish View Post
                        I will never understand how you can own a single firearm and NOT be a member of the NRA. I'm sure folks have their reason, but would LOVE LOVE LOVE to know how on earth they justify it.
                        It's not hard to understand. I can think of many reasons:

                        1. Fortunately one can own guns in the USA without having to join the gun union, a.k.a. the NRA. We need the NRA to protect that right? That's the same sales pitch used by the union bosses to justify their existence.

                        2. Once established, the main goal of virtually every human organization - club, church, political party, government, etc - becomes the preservation of its own existence and becoming bigger and more powerful, with paid officials, buildings, etc. I don't want to support their growth habits with my money. It's bad enough that our government gets bigger and bigger every day.

                        3. I have yet to find any organization that fully reflects my views on any subject, so I certainly don't want to give my money for someone else to use in support of things I don't agree with.

                        What it boils down to is that I don't want to be "used" by any organization for their own selfish purposes. I prefer to be selfish all by myself!
                        "Measure twice, cut once. Think twice, speak once."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by quercusmax View Post
                          it's not hard to understand. I can think of many reasons:

                          1. Fortunately one can own guns in the usa without having to join the gun union, a.k.a. The nra. We need the nra to protect that right? That's the same sales pitch used by the union bosses to justify their existence.

                          2. Once established, the main goal of virtually every human organization - club, church, political party, government, etc - becomes the preservation of its own existence and becoming bigger and more powerful, with paid officials, buildings, etc. I don't want to support their growth habits with my money. It's bad enough that our government gets bigger and bigger every day.

                          3. I have yet to find any organization that fully reflects my views on any subject, so i certainly don't want to give my money for someone else to use in support of things i don't agree with.

                          What it boils down to is that i don't want to be "used" by any organization for their own selfish purposes. I prefer to be selfish all by myself!

                          +1:33:

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                          • #14
                            I'm still a NRA member because they are a voice for gun owners to protect our 2nd amendment rights and while far from being perfect, having a membership and supporting them is much better than doing nothing...The firearm insurance they provide is well worth the price of admission so that alone is reason enough to join up...

                            One organization I refuse to take part in is United Way as their main mission seems to be to expand their organization and to pay outrageous salaries to the officers of their so called charity....

                            I give to and support the Wounded Warriors and The Boy Scouts of America for all both organizations do for Veterans and the community...
                            " An armed society is a polite society".... Robert A. Heinlein

                            Born under a bad sign with a blue moon in your eyes.......

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by quercusmax View Post
                              it's not hard to understand. I can think of many reasons:

                              1. Fortunately one can own guns in the usa without having to join the gun union, a.k.a. The nra. We need the nra to protect that right? That's the same sales pitch used by the union bosses to justify their existence.

                              2. Once established, the main goal of virtually every human organization - club, church, political party, government, etc - becomes the preservation of its own existence and becoming bigger and more powerful, with paid officials, buildings, etc. I don't want to support their growth habits with my money. It's bad enough that our government gets bigger and bigger every day.

                              3. I have yet to find any organization that fully reflects my views on any subject, so i certainly don't want to give my money for someone else to use in support of things i don't agree with.

                              What it boils down to is that i don't want to be "used" by any organization for their own selfish purposes. I prefer to be selfish all by myself!
                              +1 +1

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