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  • Decorated Vet Disarmed and Arrested in TX while Carrying Rifle on Boy Scout Hike

    In Texas no less. We're doomed.

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    --Thomas Jefferson (1764).

  • #2
    I think it's just a case of an ill trained officer over stepping his bounds.
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    • #3
      Not that I necessarily agree with what the police did but the guy with the rifle could have handled the situation better.
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      • #4
        There are cops and there are cops. This cop didn't look like a rookie, but he was sure poorly trained and completely oblivious to a citizen's rights and "proper" procedures. This smacks too much of the bully-boy cops in New Orleans after Katrina.

        This is a good example of the type that feels he is a law unto himself... he has a badge and a gun and can do what he wants... and not surprisingly, his buds closed ranks and stood WITH him rather than taking him aside and questioning his lack of judgment. I'm sure the lawyer will get the department's attention with the lawsuit.

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        • #5
          I wish he would have used his hand to hand combat on that jerk police officer and whupped his ass good. There is too much of this bullshit making up laws on the spot type thing going on. I respect our "good" police, but some these numbnuts have now businesss with a badge and gun.
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          • #6
            Hey Tinman - sorry I didn't see your thread here before I posted the same story three hours later in the main forum:

            http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=18639





            But it's kinda funny to see Muggsy's different responses in both threads.
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            • #7
              "To Protect and Serve" is a frequent motto on the sides of Police cars, but too often they aren't the super polite Adam-12 types. I've never run into the bully-boy type because I haven't been doing much to attract attention and I'm always polite and respectful when dealing with anyone, especially police officers. Since 1987 I've had one ticket... a few years ago in Kentucky... doing 77 in a 70 zone and the cop was really concerned if I was in LE... asked me several times if I was sure that I wasn't LE. I tried to explain that the Florida Sheriffs' Association Youth Ranch license plate was for the charity and I was an Honorary member of the FSA, but not LE... $142 ticket. I'm always truthful and will tell them how fast I was going if they ask. Back in early '87 I did just that and got a warning... I WAS a little low on my reply, but I was just starting out and accelerating when my radar detector went off. That was during the 55 MPH national speed limit and I thought I was doing 72 or so... he said 75 or higher... don't recall exactly.

              I'm a procrastinator, but I'm always in a hurry to get where I'm going. I respect LEOs and wouldn't hesitate to come to their aid any time.

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              Thomas Jefferson said

              “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
              and

              "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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              • #8
                Older country Cops have a way of doing things by the seat of the pants instead of by protocol, they get lazy and assume that what they have gotten away with for years will fly all the time. Citizens should know the laws by rule and page number in case they have to school a confused cop, but not all cops are like this.
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                • #9
                  It's wander it ended as peacefully as it did. The situation could have easily escalated with the officer grabbing and trying to forceably take the rifle from the guy. What a utterly stupid thing for the officer to do and it could have easily gotten someone killed. I can understand the officer wanting to have a chat with the guy and maybe even disarming him if he felt threatened by the rifle but don't try and do it by grabbing the rifle. Wow.
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                  • #10
                    Its a mixed bag. The guy with the AR could have been better and the cop could have been better. I can see it from both sides. The cop wants to go home in one piece and the guy wants to live in a free country. You tube is full of this type of senario. Crack a cold one and see for yourself. I keep going back and forth where I stand with it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KoolBreeze View Post
                      It's wander it ended as peacefully as it did. The situation could have easily escalated with the officer grabbing and trying to forceably take the rifle from the guy. What a utterly stupid thing for the officer to do and it could have easily gotten someone killed. I can understand the officer wanting to have a chat with the guy and maybe even disarming him if he felt threatened by the rifle but don't try and do it by grabbing the rifle. Wow.
                      He had backup.
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                      • #12
                        Both parties in question handled it badly. The guy for carrying a rifle in the open, whether legal or not, was just plan bad judgement. What did you expect the officer to do. Now the cop was just a jerk in all manor of the word, very unprofessional.

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                        • #13
                          I thought this LEO handled the situation better.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 7shot View Post
                            Both parties in question handled it badly. The guy for carrying a rifle in the open, whether legal or not, was just plan bad judgement. What did you expect the officer to do. Now the cop was just a jerk in all manor of the word, very unprofessional.
                            Was he supposed to attempt to carry it concealed? Or just rely on a handgun for defense against the animals in the area?

                            Personally if I was walking in bear country I would want a long gun on my shoulder.

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                            • #15
                              So... you shouldn't do things you're allowed to do? I have to disagree with you 7shot. Weather dangerous animals or not, it's his right under the law. I don't get it, change the law if you don't like it. I expect the officer to do his job.

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