Ohhhh Chicago, you've got it so wrong for so long!

[knkali]

my wife was in Chitown a couple years ago and had to stay the night at a hotel. She was so scared she put a dresser behind the door and slept with her Sig right next to her. It takes a lot to rattle her cage but she couldn't believe how dicey the place was. I'll stay the heck away.

[knkali]

Yup -- that's what freedom is all about. And Chicago is free to pass all the (what I think are stupid) laws that they want as long as the citizens really want them. And those of us who disagree are free to stay away. I went to a great Dave Mason concert in Kent, Ohio recently. Freedom is all about options. Unfortunately there is a great push to right now to eliminate options and make everyone conform.

Bam

[100percent]

Yeah the Il CC although an improvement in the status quo, is still a test to see if you have money, Where in Chicago can you even purchase a gun. The waiting period is just the tip of the iceberg. How long does it take to get a FOID card 2 maybe 3 months, when you may need a gun sooner rather than later. They still want the "less well to do" to rely on cops to draw chalk lines.

Read that, Friday 13 more were shot. Some Illinois cities have outright bans on weapon ownership or did that change?

[jeepster09]

:40: Let's just say if the world was getting an enema....the hose would go in Chicago [or Newark N.J.].:40:

[Bob T]

my wife was in Chitown a couple years ago and had to stay the night at a hotel. She was so scared she put a dresser behind the door and slept with her Sig right next to her. It takes a lot to rattle her cage but she couldn't believe how dicey the place was. I'll stay the heck away.

Weird...she must have picked one of the few, tiny areas that are dicey...
My wife and I stay in the city all the time, go out for shows, dinner, drinks, and walk back to the room in the dark. Never a problem, never a worry.

Yeah the Il CC although an improvement in the status quo, is still a test to see if you have money...

Sure it's costly, but everything is costly in IL. It's not because it's a gun.

Where in Chicago can you even purchase a gun.

The suburbs...

The waiting period is just the tip of the iceberg.

Same waiting period we've had since I was in my 20s. Don't most states have a waiting period for hand guns?

How long does it take to get a FOID card 2 maybe 3 months, when you may need a gun sooner rather than later.

Renewed mine a while back...got it in a month or so. The FOID has never been a big deal...good for 10 years, only cost $5. When I lived North Carolina, you had to go and get the local sheriff to sign a form before you could purchase a pistol...what a pain that was. Rather have the FOID.

They still want the "less well to do" to rely on cops to draw chalk lines.

This I agree with. Owning guns is not a poor mans game. That goes all the way back to banning "Saturday night specials" and stopping the government from selling surplus weapons. But I don't think this is exclusive to IL.

Read that, Friday 13 more were shot.

Shootings and violence in Chicago are limited to a few, small areas of the city. The actual amount of it has been decreasing for sometime.

Some Illinois cities have outright bans on weapon ownership or did that change?

A very few did, but when the Supreme Court struck down the Chicago ban, it basically struck down bans in the rest of the state.

Hope you had a great fourth!

[Bob T]

Would you guys be scared to stay in Memphis, TN or even Flint, MI? Chicago has a murder rate of 7.1 per 100,000 people as of last fall. But it is no where near the worst.

Looking through the FBI’s statistics, there seems to be at least a dozen places that have higher homicide rates than Chicago.
It seemed unfair to include small areas in this list, so I tried to stick to bigger locales, looking at areas that have more than 200,000 inhabitants.
With that in mind, here’s a list of areas that have higher homicide rates than Chicago, in no particular order:

Detroit, MI (Includes the Metropolitan Divisions of Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia and Warren-Troy-Farmington Hills): 10.9
Philadelphia, PA (Includes the Metropolitan Divisions of Camden, NJ; Montgomery County-Bucks County-Chester County, PA; Philadelphia, PA; and Wilmington, DE-MD-NJ): 8.6
Baltimore, MD (Includes Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford, Howard, and Queen Anne’s Counties and Baltimore City): 9.5
Stockton, CA (Includes San Joaquin County): 12.7
Memphis, TN (Includes Crittenden County, AR; Benton, DeSoto, Marshall, Tate, and Tunica Counties, MS; and Fayette, Shelby, and Tipton Counties, TN): 11.5
Jackson, MS (Includes Copiah, Hinds, Madison, Rankin, Simpson, and Yazoo Counties): 13.4
Montgomery, AL (Includes Autauga, Elmore, Lowndes, and Montgomery Counties): 13.9
Mobile, AL (Includes Mobile County): 11.1
Birmingham, AL (Includes Bibb, Blount, Chilton, Jefferson, St. Clair, Shelby, and Walker Counties): 9.4
Baton Rouge, LA (Includes Ascension, East Baton Rouge, East Feliciana, Iberville, Livingston, Pointe Coupee, St. Helena, West Baton Rouge, and West Feliciana Parishes): 11.8

One locale that keeps coming up, besides Chicago, is Flint, MI. The city proper has 101,632 people, while the city including the surrounding area (Genesee County) has 422,387 people. According to the FBI’s numbers, Flint has the highest homicide rate of 16.3.
So basically, the highest frequency of homicides, according to FBI statistics, occurs in Flint, MI.

Full article here: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/...well-anything/

[jeepster09]

Would you guys be scared to stay in Memphis, TN or even Flint, MI? Chicago has a murder rate of 7.1 per 100,000 people as of last fall. But it is no where near the worst.



Full article here: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/...well-anything/

There are many unsafe cities....most run by ultra left wing save the world from themself types. However as a known fact Chicago does NOT REPORT ALL CRIME TO FBI. Soooo it does not show up on reports. Let's say skews the numbers a bit. Oh and if in Minnesota stay clear of North Minneapolis at night if you value life.

[Bob T]

I do so love you guys...enjoy the weekend.

[jeepster09]

Interesting tid bit in today's news on Chicago...

The July 4th weekend is always filled with the loud booms of fireworks. But in Chicago, residents are far more likely to hear the bangs of gunfire.
More than 60 people were shot in the Windy City over the long holiday weekend, leaving at least nine people dead, ABC7 Chicago reported.
The bloody weekend began around 2:30 a.m. Friday when a 34-year-old man was fatally shot in a drive-by. From there, the violence intensified.
A teenager was shot in his car.
A woman in her 60s was grazed in the head by a stray bullet while standing on her front porch.
A man was struck by a falling bullet.
A teen was standing on the sidewalk when her ex-boyfriend allegedly walked up and shot her in the legs.
A man sitting in his car was killed when a gunman fired shots into the vehicle. A woman who was also sitting inside was injured by glass.
Two people were killed and another three wounded in police-involved shootings.
The shootings were so numerous this weekend that the Chicago Tribune ended uppublishing a roundup of attacks, focusing on just a four-hour period Sunday afternoon.
Tribune staff has been diligently following Chicagoland's shootings, mapping the incidents and listing the most recent victims by date, gender, age and location.
Since Jan. 1, more than 1,100 people have been shot in Chicago.
Two years ago, when the city's murder rate topped 500, authorities launched a campaign to turn the tide of this violent trend. According to ABC World News,hundreds of police officers have been dispatched to patrol dangerous neighborhoods and authorities have been working with community leaders to stem some of the gang activity.
In 2013, this effort appeared to be working as homicides dropped to 415. But that rate was still higher than those of many major American cities, including New York City, which recorded less than 350 murders that same year.
Police spokesman Martin Maloney told the Chicago Sun-Times that since Jan. 1,Chicago has had its lowest homicide rate since 1963. And the toll from violence over the July 4th holiday weekend was actually lower than last year when 12 men were killed and at least 60 others wounded, NBC Chicago reported.
However, police also noted an 8 percent increase in shooting victims through the first six months of the year compared with the same period in 2013.
To those Chicagoans affected by shootings, the city has not done enough.
"We're celebrating independence, but we feel like we're in prison," Father Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina Catholic Church told ABC7. "It's unacceptable. We wouldn't accept it in Iraq, we shouldn't accept it in Chicago."

[100percent]

Yep it is unacceptable. The police need to work smarter. Courts need to quit cycling the criminals back onto the street.

[getsome]

Yep it is unacceptable. The police need to work smarter. Courts need to quit cycling the criminals back onto the street.

Exactly!!!...This article says one suspect arrested had 21 prior arrests for violent crime....What ever happened to 3 strikes and you're in the slammer for good?...They keep wanting to blame guns and lax gun laws but guns are only the means to an end....The way to stop this problem is to lock up the punk gang bangers and throw away the key because as soon as the courts turn um loose they go right back to killin again...Lax gun laws are not the issue, it's lax Judges!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/justic...ago-shootings/

[JMag]

More gun control! Yay!

NO!!!! More criminal control, Chicago LE brain trust!


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[100percent]

Just heard on the news that criminals shot 82 not 60 as was reported earlier.

I wonder how many were stopped by the police and concealed carry holders.

Be safe when you are there. Carry...

[RRP]

Speaking of Chicago, the city has been ordered to pay NRA's legal fees. This is not small potatoes, either. Nearly a million bucks. Check it out.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/ne...ees-again.aspx

[100percent]

I love it RRP.