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  • #46
    Originally posted by aray View Post
    The two-hands Perry gun control comments are here:

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...se-both-hands/

    Another funny gun-related Perry story is when he shot the coyote. You can read about that here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_554397.html

    BTW I love the Huffington Post's headline on that article: "Rick Perry Shoots And KILLS Coyote" - caps in original article! The horror, the horror.

    I have to agree with getsome on Herman Cain too.
    If Governor Perry is afraid of snakes why in the hell does he want to go to Washington, D.C.?
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    • #47
      As a democrat I'm very happy that the current lot of republican candidates are carving out extremist positions on social issues and government regulation issues. This will severely hurt them in the coming election. Independents and minorities are not buying their platform. Hopefully we will be able to keep the senate and take back the house. With respect to the president, no one in that republican bus full of clowns can touch him. Well, possibly Romney but when he gets cornered into releasing his financial records he's going to be exposed as big money Wall street, not Main street as he claims.

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      • #48
        Why would anyone want any party to have control of all houses of govt? (save the judicial...sort of) Did we not just go thru two separate phases of exactly that? Did you enjoy what you got out of either of those phases? If so what did you enjoy and why?

        I is totally bamfuzzeledededed.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
          Why would anyone want any party to have control of all houses of govt? (save the judicial...sort of) Did we not just go thru two separate phases of exactly that? Did you enjoy what you got out of either of those phases? If so what did you enjoy and why?

          I is totally bamfuzzeledededed.
          I personally benefited from the Affordable Health CareAct. My daughter required 2 surgurys that would have bankrupted me last year. She fell into a loop hole where she was on my insurance while in college, but the surgurys required her to drop out for a few semesters thus loosing her insurance. I was also happy to see he wouldn't defend the DOM act. However, I'm still waiting for him to make Plan B available over the counter and put some regulations in place the keep those Wall St fat cats from robbing us again,

          One of the biggest fears I have of the current crop of republicans is deregulatiNg business which believe will once again returns us the age of robber barons.

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          • #50
            totally disagree with the last sentence. The days of the robber barron and giant labor are over, They either work together or fail togeter. I think they have both learned that. If one wants to live in the past, then that is fine.

            course spoken like a true democrat
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            • #51
              Originally posted by John222 View Post
              I personally benefited from the Affordable Health CareAct. My daughter required 2 surgurys that would have bankrupted me last year. She fell into a loop hole where she was on my insurance while in college, but the surgurys required her to drop out for a few semesters thus loosing her insurance. You could have funded her insurance just the same. Thus what benefit you think you got you already had only like many others you chose not to take advantage of it. You haven't begun to pay for that healthcare reform. You do know that the so called 500 billion that was supposed to come out of medicare to pay for some of that reform will never come out of medicare don't you? That so called Doc Fix.... I was also happy to see he wouldn't defend the DOM act. Wait you saying that the democrats in control of both houses passed the DOM and he wouldn't sign it? Or you saying that the republicans having control of both houses of the legislature and President Bush wouldn't sign it? Or are you just confusededed? However, I'm still waiting for him to make Plan B available over the counter Yeah I am sure all fathers of teenage daughters just love that idea...and put some regulations in place the keep those Wall St fat cats from robbing us again, Regulations like the CRA which could possibly have caused the mess to begin with? Or regualtions that cause FM and FM to hold the majority of mortgages in the nation with govt backing?

              One of the biggest fears I have of the current crop of republicans is deregulatiNg business which believe will once again returns us the age of robber barons.
              The biggest fear I have is that they will compromise with the democrats in such a way that we get Tax Cuts without the spending cuts that were supposed to come. WE get the banking deregulation IE repeal of Glass Steagal and changes to the CRA and yet the tax payer is the one stuck with the bill when the govt bails out the banks. The republicans did none of that alone. But then of course the democrats did none of what some blame them for alone either. Even that so called Affordable Care act was done to the american sheeple by BOTH parties.

              I can not wait to hear the crying from supposed gun rights supporting democrats when the next AWB is run thru congress.

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              • #52
                The democrats told you that the only people who would get a federal income tax increase would be those making over $200k-$250k. That may well be true. You may not get a federal income tax increase but what you may get is an increase in the cost of everything you purchase. They touted the Canadian and French and UK healthcare systems and yet they offered you nothing of the kind. Did you bother to ask your democrat representatives why not offer something similar IF those systems were so awesome?

                As I supposed gun rights supporter did you bother to visit the Barack Obama website before the election and see what it is he intends to do concerning gun rights? Do you have any clue what the Tiahrt amendment is and what it does? Do you support allowing anyone to access that information for any reason other than law enforcement in the context of a criminal case? Do you support an assault weapons ban that includes every semi auto firearm that uses a detachable magazine? Do you intend to give up your detachable magazine firearms when the next AWB comes along? Or do you intend to let your democrat representatives know that this sort of action will result in their losing your support?

                Do you support this administrations actions vis a vis Fast and Furious? Why do you think this operation was undertaken and why have members of this administration lied to you about it? Do you support the people who have lied to you in this regard still?

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                • #53
                  if the great one gets back in u can count on it, HE WILL GO AFTER OUR GUN RIGHTS. It is in his blood and he has then nothing to loose, so best we concentrat on winning the house and senate and taking our chances with the #1 seat. Right now he hasn't the votes to putt this sh-t off. But he seems to come up with some of these off the shelves decisions that in his mind needs no congressional approval

                  I look for unemployment to go up in the first quarter with seasonal layoffs coming right now and how phony is this umemplpoyjment numbers anyhow. 50% of the .04 drop in emp0loyment was people who are no longer being counted. Figures don't lie but liars do figure. If ur umemployed ur unemplopyed, but I guess after a year of being out of work we now don;'t count u anymore. What kind of B. S is there. Lets have the true umemployment numbers, It might just awaken this countrty when we see it at around14%
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
                    The biggest fear I have is that they will compromise with the democrats in such a way that we get Tax Cuts without the spending cuts that were supposed to come. WE get the banking deregulation IE repeal of Glass Steagal and changes to the CRA and yet the tax payer is the one stuck with the bill when the govt bails out the banks. The republicans did none of that alone. But then of course the democrats did none of what some blame them for alone either. Even that so called Affordable Care act was done to the american sheeple by BOTH parties.

                    I can not wait to hear the crying from supposed gun rights supporting democrats when the next AWB is run thru congress.
                    You don't know too much about health insurance. I've been paying for it for the last 32 years and because of a loop hole once leaving school to have surgury, she would have been kicked off my plan and then to new company it would have been considered a pre existing condition and I wouldn't have been able To get her coverage. No handout here, I've paid and continue to pay for a great insurance plan . Because of Obama, I was able to keep her on my plan (which I pay for).

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                    • #55
                      ROFLMAO! loop hole... ROFLMAO.... 32 years eh? Didn't the healthcare reform only allow children up to 26 to remain on their parents policy? You might want to check on that...

                      I know enough about insurance to know you could have paid for insurance on her own plan all along and not had the issue come up at all. YOU chose to have her on YOUR plan knowing she would go off of it at a certain age because it was cheaper to include her on your plan. THEN you have the gall to think that she shouldn't have been forced off of your plan at that certain age nor should her new policy have cost more.

                      I also have a pre exsisting condition, never been turned down for insurance tho what I get costs more due to that condition. What people seem to want and think they got with this healthcare reform is pre exsisting conditions wont cost more. WRONG they will cost more than the non pre exsisting condition policies from before except that now the non pre exsisting policies will cost more also. Check the CBO report for the truth there.

                      But hey you are correct I haven't a clue except the clue I get from having a wife in the healthcare field, a BIL in the healthcare field, a SIL in the healthcare field and a mother who worked for a healthcare insurance provider.

                      YOU remeber how today feels when the bills for this healthcare reform start coming due during the next presidents reign.

                      Just the same did you contact your representative and ask them why they didn't offer the people of the US a system modeled after the Canadian system or the French system or the UK system which they touted as being so good? Did you contact them and ask them how they believe that this healtcare refrom can be paid for on the backs of the RICH? Did you question them on anything at all?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
                        ROFLMAO! loop hole... ROFLMAO.... 32 years eh? Didn't the healthcare reform only allow children up to 26 to remain on their parents policy? You might want to check on that...

                        I know enough about insurance to know you could have paid for insurance on her own plan all along and not had the issue come up at all. YOU chose to have her on YOUR plan knowing she would go off of it at a certain age because it was cheaper to include her on your plan. THEN you have the gall to think that she shouldn't have been forced off of your plan at that certain age nor should her new policy have cost more.

                        I also have a pre exsisting condition, never been turned down for insurance tho what I get costs more due to that condition. What people seem to want and think they got with this healthcare reform is pre exsisting conditions wont cost more. WRONG they will cost more than the non pre exsisting condition policies from before except that now the non pre exsisting policies will cost more also. Check the CBO report for the truth there.

                        But hey you are correct I haven't a clue except the clue I get from having a wife in the healthcare field, a BIL in the healthcare field, a SIL in the healthcare field and a mother who worked for a healthcare insurance provider.

                        YOU remeber how today feels when the bills for this healthcare reform start coming due during the next presidents reign.

                        Just the same did you contact your representative and ask them why they didn't offer the people of the US a system modeled after the Canadian system or the French system or the UK system which they touted as being so good? Did you contact them and ask them how they believe that this healtcare refrom can be paid for on the backs of the RICH? Did you question them on anything at all?

                        Don't be such an idiot dude. She was less than 23 yrs old and in college. That's part of my company benefits, coverage to 23 while in college. And who knew she would develop a major health problem. Now your just being an arrogant arse.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Rainman48314 View Post
                          I am far from convinced myself. His "jobs" come from being the beneficiary of two wars. Lots of bases, lots of Federal spending creates jobs. There was also an oil boom. Perry was just in the right place at the right time.
                          And Obama is in the wrong place at the wrong time. Take your pick.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by John222 View Post
                            I personally benefited from the Affordable Health CareAct. My daughter required 2 surgurys that would have bankrupted me last year. She fell into a loop hole where she was on my insurance while in college, but the surgurys required her to drop out for a few semesters thus loosing her insurance. I was also happy to see he wouldn't defend the DOM act. However, I'm still waiting for him to make Plan B available over the counter and put some regulations in place the keep those Wall St fat cats from robbing us again,

                            One of the biggest fears I have of the current crop of republicans is deregulatiNg business which believe will once again returns us the age of robber barons.
                            John, you could have moved to Canada. They've had socialized medicine there for years. That's why so many Canadians come to the United States for treatment.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by John222 View Post
                              As a democrat I'm very happy that the current lot of republican candidates are carving out extremist positions on social issues and government regulation issues. This will severely hurt them in the coming election. Independents and minorities are not buying their platform. Hopefully we will be able to keep the senate and take back the house. With respect to the president, no one in that republican bus full of clowns can touch him. Well, possibly Romney but when he gets cornered into releasing his financial records he's going to be exposed as big money Wall street, not Main street as he claims.
                              It doesn't require much thought to be a democrat. That's why there are so many of them.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by John222 View Post
                                Don't be such an idiot dude. She was less than 23 yrs old and in college. That's part of my company benefits, coverage to 23 while in college. And who knew she would develop a major health problem. Now your just being an arrogant arse.
                                How was she less than 23 and you paid for her insurance for 32 years?

                                AND Yes I am being an arrogant arse indeed. No one KNEW she would develope any condition. YOU always knew there was that possibility else you would not have had insurance. THUS you could have easily paid for her separate policy and never had to deal with this issue, YOU made the choice not to.

                                But you explain how one can call himself a supporter of the 2nd amendment and vote for somehow who doesn't believe anyone should have the RIGHT to keep and bear arms? President Obama claims to support the 2nd amendment yet he intends to reinstate an assault weapons ban.. YOU might want to contact him and ask him what part of the 2nd amendment does he NOT understand? Ask him where in the 2nd amendment does it state that govt has the ability to decide what sort of arm one can have. Ask him where in the 2nd amendment does it state that the govt either state or federal has the ability to decide where and or if I can bear that arm. The man claims to be a constitutional lawyer yet he can not understand a simple statement within that document.

                                I am no Constitutional scholar but it makes perfectly good sense to me. The founding fathers had an aversion to a standing army since such a thing could very easily be used by a tyrannical govt to enslave the citizenry. They agreed that the only FREE MAN is the man who is allowed to arm himself as he so desires. Thus the 2nd amendment starts out "A well regulated militia, being neccessary to the security of a FREE state,...." Notice how it never says that one must be a part of any such "well" regulated militia in order to keep and bear arms.. only that such a thing is neccessary for the security of the FREE state.

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