9mm Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr. +P

[wyntrout]

If anyone is interested, I just found some Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr. +P HP Ammo, at Ammunition To Go:
Ammunition To Go : 20rds - 9mm Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr. +P HP Ammo [23611] - $20.95
My order.
6 x 20rds - 9mm Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr. +P HP Ammo (23611) = $125.70
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Sub-Total: $125.70
United Parcel Service (XML) (1 pkg) (UPS Ground, 2010-03-01): $12.06 Shipping Insurance: $0.65
Total: $138.41

They had some really good prices on Remington Golden Sabre:

25rds - 9mm Remington Golden Saber 124gr. +P HP Ammo
[GS9MMD] regular $19.95 $15.95
and
25rds - 9mm Remington Golden Saber 147gr. HP Ammo
[GS9MMC] regular $24.95 $15.95


Ammunition To Go : 25rds - 9mm Remington Golden Saber 124gr. +P HP Ammo [GS9MMD] - $15.95

Wynn

[mr surveyor]

thanks for the heads up..... how does the Rem GS 124gr work in the CW? I've always like Golden Sabres in my other carries, but have yet to find the 9mm locally since getting the CW9


surv

[Vinikahr]

Are we getting ready?

Yes, I had been buying from them for the last 3 years.
Good service.

[wyntrout]

thanks for the heads up..... how does the Rem GS 124gr work in the CW? I've always like Golden Sabres in my other carries, but have yet to find the 9mm locally since getting the CW9


surv

I shot a couple of boxes of the 124 grain GS and seemed to have no problems in my PM9 and K9. Those are the longest bullets that will fit in the magazines, I think!
I just wanted something with more oomph and prefer the 124-125 grain +P rounds, especially the "short barrel" version Gold Dots for my 3 to 3 1/2 inch barreled Kahrs.
It looks like Double Tap stopped making the +P 125s I just bought a few weeks ago. I swear that those looked like the GDs that had been pulled. It looked like collet marks on the bullets.
Next time I go to the range, I'll try to compare some of these bullets, as far as "low flash" powder. I forgot the last time.
I was very tempted to get some of those GS +P for $15.95 a box of 25, but I have too many kinds of defense ammo already. I was trying to sell my GS, Fed HS, and CorBon 125 gr +P at the last gun show. I got there too late and didn't get much time walking around with my sign. I did sell my Critical Defense .380 ammo, though. I'm banking on the BB 90 gr "+P" for my "future" P380... going on 11 months.
Wynn

[mr surveyor]

if the 124 grain Golden Sabres perform well in the PM9, they should certainly be good in the CW9. It may be time to rob the piggy bank

surv

[jocko]

I sure would like to see some chron stuff ont eh gd short and standard gold dots. I sometimes wonder if this is more add hype over substance. Proabably some tests floating aorund somewhere on geletain etc and velocity also. I sur elike my standard +P gold dots and my 125 grain corbon +p HP's. the shoot very accurate and feed perfectly. two things that make a good round IMO..

[wyntrout]

I would like to see that kind of comparison, too. That's one reason I want to use +P -- to make up for the shorter barrel. I know that it's possible to use a faster burning powder that doesn't over-pressure in the shorter barrels. With the regular +P loads some of the powder may not get burned or give as much push in a shorter barrel. Usually +P only gives you about 100 fps more and with the shorter barrel that makes it somewhat equal to the regular load in a longer barrel.
It would be nice to see real comparisons in the 3 and 3.5 inch or so barrels that most of our CCW Kahrs have.
From my "research", it seems a good 9mm defense load is bonded JHP at around 125 grains at 1250 fps, but that's obtained in a 4 to 5 inch barrel.
Hopefully, these "short barrel" GD +Ps will do the trick.
Wynn

[recoilguy]

I have used the 9mm Remington Golden Saber 124gr. +P HP Ammo in my CW before and have found them to work very well. I have no Chrono info or penetration or expansion info just that they feed well, fired every time, and made a very nice group. I would be interested to see how they compare to some of the others too butwould not hesitate to load my mags with them and put the gun on my side.

RCG

[quikduk]

Interesting...as I stumbled across these tests late last night (when I should have been sleeping...).

Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

Read what "they" have found re: the GS ammo.

YMMV of course

[wyntrout]

Yeah, I've read that before and that is one of the research items that lead me to choose the particular ammo that I did -- Speer 124-grain GD +P, short barrel version, since my PM9 barrel is under 3 1/2 inches and in "uncharted territory". What's the K9, 3.6"?
Anyhow, from this and other reviews/observations and word-of-mouth on this forum, I think that this is the best round for me. I've always preferred the 124 or 125-grain ammo, even for range fodder.
Reliable feed in my pistols and performance are most important characteristics of CCW ammo to me. Price is a consideration, too, but I think that a $1 bullet will suffice and I don't need the $2 per bullet stuff. JMHO
Wynn

[Mr. S]

I won't buy defense ammo in 20 or 25 round boxes(unless it is DPX) because it is just too expensive.

Example:
This is not the short barrel but it is 124+p and is 500 rounds for $250 shipped
500 rounds Speer Gold Dot 9MM 124Gr +P NEW : Pistol Ammo at GunBroker.com

[wyntrout]

I won't buy defense ammo in 20 or 25 round boxes(unless it is DPX) because it is just too expensive.

Example:
This is not the short barrel but it is 124+p and is 500 rounds for $250 shipped
500 rounds Speer Gold Dot 9MM 124Gr +P NEW : Pistol Ammo at GunBroker.com

I wanted some of the "short barrel" version to try. I usually look for better deals, too. I haven't really tried auctions. The "buy now price" is very good, if that's what you're looking for.
Next gun show I plan to walk around again with my sandwich placard and try to get my money back on my other defense ammo at a buck a round or so. I don't like using that for target fodder to "get rid of it".
Wynn

[Vinikahr]

I won't buy defense ammo in 20 or 25 round boxes(unless it is DPX) because it is just too expensive.

Example:
This is not the short barrel but it is 124+p and is 500 rounds for $250 shipped
500 rounds Speer Gold Dot 9MM 124Gr +P NEW : Pistol Ammo at GunBroker.com

Unless you plan to go to war or something and you are a LEO, I do not see buying all this SD ammo to be cost effective. It is a good deal though, but kind of expensive if you will be using as range ammo.

[Vinikahr]

These guys have fair deals under the circumstances for range ammo, but too bad that I do not have the need to buy ammo as a such large quantities:

AMMOMAN.COM

As you may see, they have the Gold Dot for $299 a bit higher than the auction at GB. Do not know if is +P. But they have 115 Gr and 147 Gr.

[Mr. S]

Unless you plan to go to war or something and you are a LEO, I do not see buying all this SD ammo to be cost effective. It is a good deal though, but kind of expensive if you will be using as range ammo.

I like to test my gun with at least 100(preferably 200) rounds of any ammo I would carry to make sure of proper function and accuracy.
Don't you?

As for cost effective the auction I linked to has a price of .50 per round for proven defensive hollow points shipped to you door.
The OP paid over a dollar a round