Quick question...

[Glock23]

I recently forayed into the world of 9mm for a little diversity in my arsenal... and with the current market being what it is, I ordered pretty much whatever ammo I could get my hands on, as there was zero in stock local.

So essentially, I know almost nothing about 9mm ammo and the differences between brands. That being said....

Fiocci 115gr FMJ on the left... looks very similar to the WWB I shot at the range this afternoon. PMC Bronze 115gr FMJ on the right, seems waaaaay small by comparison. Is this normal?

[jocko]

casing is much shorter even, I wold even doubt if it is 115 grain bullet, It might be 9m sumpin but it ain't the 9mm that u should be shootin in ur kahr. I would think not nyhow. The back of the rims are even alot different. sumpin is screwed up IMO. I'm sure ur gonna get a better qand more correct answer than what I just wrtoe here to.

[RRP]

Please check both boxes to ensure they are 9mm Luger (9x19), and not 9mm Makarov (9x18), or .380 Auto.

[zaman]

Looks to be 380. Double check be fore firing.

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

I think bulkammo.com may have screwed me.

The shorter one was ordered as PMC Bronze. The head stamp says S&B 9mm Br. C., which according to a few minutes of googling stands for Sellier and Bellot 9mm Browning Court, aka 9mm short, aka 380 auto.

[RRP]

Yep, that's what it looks like.

There are something like 17 different 9mm cartridges. In the US, the most common is 9mm Luger (sometimes called Para or Parabellum). The .380, although the same diameter, is shorter. In Europe, the .380 is commonly called 9mm short.

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

Yep, that's what it looks like.

There are something like 17 different 9mm cartridges. In the US, the most common is 9mm Luger (sometimes called Para or Parabellum). The .380, although the same diameter, is shorter. In Europe, the .380 is commonly called 9mm short.

Yeah, they're in PMC Bronze 9mm Luger boxes, which is what I ordered but apparently did not receive.

[RRP]

Anyway, now you have a reason to buy a P380!

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

Anyway, now you have a reason to buy a P380!

I may just do that lol

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

Just checked the other box, and it has the correct ammo... PMC 9mm Luger.

Busy market mixup, I suppose.

[RRP]

Busy market mixup, I suppose.

Yes, that sounds probable.

I've bought a lot of ammo and I have never seen a mislabeled box. Good job noticing the screw-up.

[Ikeo74]

I wouldn't shoot it. It may be loaded to 9mm load specs in a .380 case and if so will blow up a 380 gun.
If you are a reloader pull 1 bullet and weight it. DON'T SHOOT any until you can verify it's loaded to 380 spects. Better contact the seller and complain. Others may have the same defective ammo.

Don't sell or give it to a 380 owner because it will make you responsible if it causes injury to the shooter.

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

I don't reload, nor do I have a scale that will measure in grains.

I do have a kitchen scale that I can set to grams (10 grams for the S&B vs 11 grams for the actual PMC).

[Glock23]

Re: Quick question...

For arguments sake, say I only ordered one box, not having the 2nd box with the correct ammo or the Fiocci to compare it with.

I buy my first ever 9mm handgun.

I order a box of PMC 9mm ammo, I receive a box of S&B 380 ammo disguised as (improperly boxed as) PMC 9mm ammo. I load it up and shoot it.

What happens?

For the record, I DO NOT intend to shoot this in a 9mm handgun... just wondering what might have happened.

[Ikeo74]

I don't reload, nor do I have a scale that will measure in grains.

I do have a kitchen scale that I can set to grams (10 grams for the S&B vs 11 grams for the actual PMC).

Actually, weighing the bullet won't give you the answer as to if it's safe or not. Its the powder charge that will make it unsafe and there is no way to determine what powder is in the case. Safe thing to do is call the seller for a return and replacement. Those may need to be taken apart and recycled.