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  • #31
    The Lehigh ammo looks good for a 380. Only one way to know if it will feed in a Kahr ...

    muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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    • #32
      Thanks thelastdaze for the new info. Definitely a find and try round.

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      • #33
        If someone is local with a good running Kahr I will let them try some out as Im eager to see if it will run, it didnt in his at all but nothing else did as well..

        I've only fired it and it doesnt seem any hotter then my medium handloads, but seems to me we are on the right track for this caliber, best of both worlds, hardball baby !! I also believe these to be full metal and not plated...
        RIP Muggsy

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        • #34
          I ordered a couple of boxes. Will likely be a week or so before I get to the range.

          muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DavidR View Post
            I ordered a couple of boxes. Will likely be a week or so before I get to the range.
            I knew my marketing strategies would pay off even though the company isn't public I have vested interest.....

            J/K .... I'll be waiting your range report, I hope they feed through your gun as this is the kind defense ammo I don't think anyone could say different after the results...
            RIP Muggsy

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            • #36
              According to this the pistol that started WW1 was a .32 acp.

              http://www.guns.com/2013/10/31/infam...the-assassins/
              Draw me not without provocation, sheath me not without honor.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DavidR View Post
                I ordered a couple of boxes. Will likely be a week or so before I get to the range.
                If this stuff proves out I hope they change the name to something less idiotic than "Extreme Penetrator"
                Rest in peace Muggsy

                "Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." Winston Churchill 1899

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                • #38
                  I haven't personally tested it in gel or water bottles or, or, or..... but I have fired it and it feeds fine.... In my mind for a 380 this is the only thing to consider oh and btw, I will never ever again use Hornady in anything after seeing these vids...
                  RIP Muggsy

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DavidR View Post
                    I ordered a couple of boxes. Will likely be a week or so before I get to the range.
                    Fired 20 rounds of the Lehigh Extreme Penetrator at the range today. It cycled fine through my CW380 - no FTF or FTE. It's a soft shooting round and was accurate.

                    Unfortunately, I'm still having some intermittent problems with failure to go into battery with 2 of my 3 mags. Mag #1 is perfect with any ammo I run. Mags 2 and 3 have occasional failures to go into battery with FMJ and Federal Hydra Shok. Hornady Critical Duty seems to run well period - never had an issue.

                    For carry I'm good with Lehigh in mag 1 and if I carry a spare mag, it'll be Critcal Defense.

                    I'm open to suggestions on the battery failures. I've polished the insides of the gun and had 75 flawless rounds with mag 1 and 2 on my last range trip. It's been almost 3 weeks since I last lubed the 380 so it may have been a little dry when I fired it today. Maybe I need to lube it every week. I hand stretched the springs in mag 2 and 3 when I cleaned them today to see if that helps. Any other ideas? I'd like to avoid sending it back to Kahr if I can.

                    muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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                    • #40
                      Awesome man !!!! really good news to hear it cycled..... tell me isn't it the best looking ammo you've ever laid eyes on?? I really am hyped about this ammo bigtime.... new innovations man... gotta love it....

                      sorry about your mag issues, seems odd they would both do the same thing at the same time.....

                      have you looked at the follower and maybe compared it to mag 1?? are 2 and 3 larger capacities?? factory mags??
                      RIP Muggsy

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                      • #41
                        I had intermittent failures with my pm40 from a tight extractor. Not sure if you evaluated for that.

                        I think it great that your penetrator ammo is working. If there is any weakness with a 380 with a short barrel it is penetration.
                        “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”

                        ― Dalai Lama XIV (as told to high school students.)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TheLastDaze View Post
                          Awesome man !!!! really good news to hear it cycled..... tell me isn't it the best looking ammo you've ever laid eyes on?? I really am hyped about this ammo bigtime.... new innovations man... gotta love it....

                          sorry about your mag issues, seems odd they would both do the same thing at the same time.....

                          have you looked at the follower and maybe compared it to mag 1?? are 2 and 3 larger capacities?? factory mags??
                          The range officers thought the ammo looked very cool. They'd never seen anything like it. All 3 mags are factory 6-rounders. Mag 3 is brand new.

                          Originally posted by 100percent View Post
                          I had intermittent failures with my pm40 from a tight extractor. Not sure if you evaluated for that.

                          I think it great that your penetrator ammo is working. If there is any weakness with a 380 with a short barrel it is penetration.
                          I don't know how to evaluate for a tight extractor. How is it done?

                          muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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                          • #43
                            How I evaluated mine was by comparison to known similar working guns. Dissassembled the weapon, removed barrel. and tried pushing brass up through the extractor. You can feel how much friction it has as the brass intersects the extractor from the bottom.

                            My gun was older so i chose to try polishing the sharp bevel at the bottom. Runs 100 percent now.
                            “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”

                            ― Dalai Lama XIV (as told to high school students.)

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                            • #44
                              just read the entirety of the thread for the first time... some people talking about how some ammo wont feed into their gun... when I first joined I posted a thread "does Kahr really suck that bad"?? the reason why is, I read ALL THE TIME about kahrs malfunctioning.... this shouldn't be happening in such an expensive gun, you shouldn't have to modify it to get it to run properly, period....

                              I wouldn't carry a gun that didn't run anything I threw at it, there isn't a gun I own that wont eat any ammo, and I've thrown unclean and nasty reloaded brass through them.. my elsie pea eats everything, I have almost a 1000 rounds through her with zero issues..

                              when my kahr pm9 comes in and I have to tweak it, I'll dump it and never return to kahr again... so we'll see
                              RIP Muggsy

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TheLastDaze View Post
                                just read the entirety of the thread for the first time... some people talking about how some ammo wont feed into their gun... when I first joined I posted a thread "does Kahr really suck that bad"?? the reason why is, I read ALL THE TIME about kahrs malfunctioning.... this shouldn't be happening in such an expensive gun, you shouldn't have to modify it to get it to run properly, period....

                                I wouldn't carry a gun that didn't run anything I threw at it, there isn't a gun I own that wont eat any ammo, and I've thrown unclean and nasty reloaded brass through them.. my elsie pea eats everything, I have almost a 1000 rounds through her with zero issues..

                                when my kahr pm9 comes in and I have to tweak it, I'll dump it and never return to kahr again... so we'll see
                                I hear ya ... not thrilled that my CW380 isn't flawless but I absolutely love the pistol. The size is amazing, the trigger is great and it's accurate enough for self defense. I've been corresponding with Kahr about the problems and I sent them an email this morning asking for a prepaid shipping label. Hopefully we can get this one working right.

                                I had a CW9 which a few FTFs early on but the problem disappeared by itself by the end of the break in period. Sold the CW9 after I got a CM9. The CM9 has been fine right out of the box. It has reliably fed, fired and ejected everything I've put through it.

                                muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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