Federal Classic Hi Shok the same as Fed. HST 147gr 9mm ??? reocommend a SD ammo?

[TheLastDaze]

I have a couple old boxes of Federal Classic HI SHOK 147gr jhp and while I was doing a search of specs for the newer Federal HST 147gr it seems the specs match, exactly in fact..... 1000fps /326fp

Perhaps the JHP itself is different?? I've done some backyard water jug tests with these years ago as well as wet phone books, and the collected bullets expanded perfectly, while not accurate test results by any means they were still consistent nonetheless...

My question is, I'm looking for a good "new" SD round for my pm9 as well as g26..

Does anyone know if there is an actual difference in the booolit itself??

Or perhaps you can recommend a SD bullet?? I'm partial to 147gr but open to others as well...

[TheLastDaze]

I'm going to buy a box of the HST 147gr for comparison to the Hi Shok classic, but can't find any.... If the bullet is the same we are talking a huge difference in price for the box, not the ammo.. They still sell the Classic in a white box, I'm hopeful someone can chime in...

in the mean time I think I'll pick up a box of gold dots ......

[berettabone]

I carry the 147 gr. HST's. I can't say whether they are the same or not..............don't really care.

[Longitude Zero]

Good ammo. If it is more than one year old I would never carry it. For me it is Hornady Critical Defense of Critical Duty in every caliber for handguns.

[muggsy]

LZ, I have some .45 cal ball ammo that was manufactured in 1943 for the military. I don't think that you would want to stand between me and the target when I shoot it. Just sayin.

[muggsy]

Federal Hi Shok was good ammo when it was first issued and it's still good today. I do prefer the more modern HST projectile.

[DavidR]

You clearly don't get it - new is always better. Throw out those old crappy Hi Shoks and get some HST!

FWIW - I run HST standard pressure 124 grain in my CM9.

[GLOCKROCKER]

Just to show you what a nice guy I am, I will be willing to dispose of any 1+ year old ammo you guys have free of charge!

[muggsy]

Just to show you what a nice guy I am, I will be willing to dispose of any 1+ year old ammo you guys have free of charge!

Yer my kinda man, Glockrocker.

[TheLastDaze]

yeah its pretty old stuff but I don't see an expiration date on it and it goes bang everytime I pull the trigger My G26 is loaded with it now and has been for a loooong time, but now that I carry every single day I want to buy something modern, ammo has come a very long way for 9mm....

If anyone finds the HST please let me know... I'm turning up nothing

[GLOCKROCKER]

yeah its pretty old stuff but I don't see an expiration date on it and it goes bang everytime I pull the trigger My G26 is loaded with it now and has been for a loooong time, but now that I carry every single day I want to buy something modern, ammo has come a very long way for 9mm....

If anyone finds the HST please let me know... I'm turning up nothing

SGammo.com usually has HST in 50 rd. boxes at good prices.

[berettabone]

Lucky Gunner has 124 gr................................................ ....................

[Longitude Zero]

LZ, I have some .45 cal ball ammo that was manufactured in 1943 for the military. I don't think that you would want to stand between me and the target when I shoot it. Just sayin.

True but neither would I be silly enough to fire a gun with it either. I have seen too many issues with piss poor quality of ammo of that vintage.

[Longitude Zero]

Federal Hi Shok was good ammo when it was first issued and it's still good today. I do prefer the more modern HST projectile.

It was marginal back in the day. Today I is okay but there is FAR BETTER ammo out there. No I would not want to be shot with it but Hydra Shocks would out-perform it by a mile or more.

[berettabone]

Nothing is a better test than the human body, but from what testing I have observed, HST is some of the best out there............................................