Polycase ARX?

[SlowBurn]

Buy some PPU online. That's what I broke my CW380 in with along with Polycase ARX for carry. I am not kidding, I have not had a single issue ever. I did run one box of Federal aluminum without a hitch as well.

Cheers,

Derek

Started a new thread because i've been wondering about this ammo. Anybody who's used it, especially in 380, what do you think?

[DXTAC]

I have now fired about 40 rounds of the ARX through my CW380 without an issue. The pistol is well broken in with 400 rounds of PPU through the pipe and not one FTF, FTE or any other issue. I like the Poly because it's lighter and hits harder causing damage more like a 9mm. I EDC the .380 now and that was not my original intention. I may even carry it when it cools off and shorts and T-shirt weather is done. The penetration is awesome and should be good for winter clothing up here in the Windy City.

Cheers!!

Derek


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[SlowBurn]

Thanks. Going to try it out when I find some. I guess they're associated with Ruger now, which leads me to believe the ammo may not be just a gimmick like some other innovative loads.
http://www.ruger.com/micros/ammo/index.html?r=y

[SlowBurn]

LGSs don't seem to have Polycase ARX in stock. Just ordered some from Buds which had it cheapest of the reliable online dealers. Looking forward to trying it out. Recoil with Kahr 380s is already good compared to other pocket guns but I'm guessing it may be even less noticeable with these lighter loads.

Derek, do you by chance use the magguts system to get an extra round in your mag? Works with ammo I've tried so far, wondering if it will feed ARX as well

[muggsy]

The Polycase ARX is designed to fragment if it strikes a barrier. I don't see this as a good thing. A rib bone is a barrier. I'll stick with my time proven Hornady Custom 124 Gr. round for carry until I see some autopsy reports on the ARX.

[DXTAC]

SlowBurn - I do not. I use the standard 6 round, one in the chamber and an extra mag. Nuttin fancy.
On another note I did buy 3 boxes, GULP, of the ARX in 45 for my CW45 winter carry and my RI 1911. Each ate it up without a hitch. The 1911 is in the night stand and as I stated I carry the cw45 in winter months.
Cheers
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[SlowBurn]

I got a Ruger branded box from Bud's and took it to the range today to try out with my CW380. Used different mags including a Kahr 7 round extended mag and a 6 rounder converted to 7 using the Magguts system. Zero problems feeding or firing with any mag. Spun the metal targets on the tree fine. I also wasted a box of Hornady CD just to get a get a side by side. Recoil with the Hornady is not bad, but the ARX is a bit less.

I like it a lot ordered some more, and plan to start carrying it. A side benefit is the lighter weight, which makes a difference in a pocket gun especially with the extra round crammed into the magguts mag.

Muggsy, thats a good point. I don't know whether I'm counting on the 380 to break bones but I suppose if it hits with enough velocity it might, even if the bullet deforms or shatters.

[muggsy]

I'm more concerned about penetration. I know that my chosen Hornady load will reach vital organs. Not so sure about the ARX.

[CharlieR]

The ARX ammo is available at Field & Stream shops. Haven't tried it yet.

[SlowBurn]

Full review in Nov American Rifleman
http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...se-arx-bullet/

[Dbholfo]

I've yet to try it or Liberty Civil Defense but both seem to be more than passing fancies. At $23 a box of 20 ARX is a tad pricy but I guess if you life depends on it that's really a good price. Liberty is $35 a box, even more pricey but 1900 fps. ARX is stated at 1307 fps.

[Bobshouse]

Ruger has put out the same thing, you get 25 per box and it's a lot cheaper. About 20 bucks at most sporting goods stores.

[MarkB1]

I know that this is the Poly Case ammo that is getting an assist from Ruger. There have been several reviews and ordinance gel videos since the last postings here.

I picked up two boxes of .380 Ruger ARX ammo from Brownells for $17.00 a box of 25 rounds. The cartridges are loaded in brass cases with a "JAG" headstamp. The bullet has the profile of a hardball loading except for the three flutes in each bullet.

I have not yet fired the ammo in my RM380 so my comments are from the reviews and articles I have read and the videos I have seen.

The stated velocity of the .380 round is 1315 fps with a 56 gr bullet. The gel test show that the flutes cause a very good initial wound channel from the fluid pressure that the flutes generate. Then the bullet starts to tumble as it slows. This is by design and causes even more wound damage. The bullet in .380 easily goes through 4 layers of denim and still causes the good initial wound channel. It will not clog up like a hollow point will from the cloth.

This is science and technology producing a design that works differently yet is still very effective.

Here is a review that gives a good explanation of how the round works by RealGuysReview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdkDbpOntns

Here is a gel test with denim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXlYcabJ3lY

Keep an open mind here. Things change. Remember when "polymer" handguns came out and everyone said they will never work well or catch on? Read the reports and watch the videos and draw your own conclusion. From what I have read and seen, I feel the ARX rounds are effective and a possible improvement over existing designs. The current designs will always work well.

Here is a faq page from Polycase that gives a lot of info on how their bullets are made and how they work. It's good reading.

http://www.polycaseammo.com/faq

Here is an article from Ed Head from Gunsite:

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/ruger-a...unition/36155/

[muggsy]

One of the problems that I see is the federal government mandating plastic bullets. If they turn out to be less effective that could be our loss. We could also face shortages like we recently experienced with conventional ammunition. Lighter bullets don't retain velocity long range and are more susceptible to wind drift. They may work well in handguns at short range and be a complete fail in rifles at long range.

[MarkB1]

I agree with you, Muggsy, that the jury is still out on if this technology will be effective on long range rifle shots. It does seem to be that you need the mass of a heavier bullet to retain effective energy for the hit on game at long range.

That said, this does appear to be ground breaking for pistol bullets