tul ammo

[green02crew]

I already bought 2400 rounds (9mm and .223, 1200 of each). Going to get more for sure.

[jreXD9]

it ran fine in my cw45 and runs fine in my Kimber .45, runs fine in the XDm9 and MK9.

[wyntrout]

Our closest Super Center sells rifles and shotguns... most American made. Not many W-M's sell guns, though.

Besides the smoke and stink, the Wolf .45 FMJ shot OK, but I was worried about accelerated wear with steel cases AND gunk from the "polymer coating" on the cases burning onto the chamber.

Wynn

[garyb]

Im going to be patient and get something else.

Before I started reloading I was ordering my ammo on line to find good deals on good ammo. You might want to pursue that avenue; OR simply start researching reloading. It is a great hobby and you can produce just what you like. Fun, inexpensive way to shoot lots. Try it.

[LuckyGunner]

garyb +1 for reloading.

I shoot quite a bit of steel casing ammo when I can pick up my brass. I use the steel ammo as a test to see how reliable my firearms really are.

It's made at the same plant as the Wolf. So if you can use one reliably you can use the other.

[TheTman]

I only use Russian ammo in Russian type guns, MAK-90, SKS, Makarov, etc. I'd particularly stay away from Wolf which has proved to be pretty unreliable in my experiences with it in a MAK 90, also a friend didn't like it in his Mini-30. Lots of pull the trigger and no bang.

[jlottmc]

I have used Russian ammo for years, the only thing I noticed compared to WWB is that there is a little less pop. Haven't had any problems with it, I clean after I shoot anyway, and if it weren't for the range and their steel case bans would still be shooting it. I have commie guns, and it works fine in them, I have American guns and it works well in them too. Take it as you will.

[O'Dell]

I've never used Russian ammo in any gun. I'll take the good-old American stuff every time with maybe some S&B or Fiocchi thrown in occasionally.

[MERCTECH]

Well I never did buy any. So many said it wasnt good. Maybe if in a pinch and its the only one available I'll try it.

[paul34]

Tul Ammo in 45 works well in my XD45.

My experience with Tul in 9 is different. I got about three FTFires in my CM9. Looked like light primer strikes, though? Kind of weird. They all fired the second time I loaded them. I don't know. This is the first time this has happened. Normally light primer strikes sound like a gun problem, but I've never experienced this issue with any other ammo. I fired about 20 rounds of HSTs in the same session and had zero issue with them.

I don't find Tul in 9 worth it, anyway. The Federal Champion at walmart is only about $1 more. You get brass cases for that extra dollar. I think ti is worth it.

For 45, the difference is more like $3-$4. More significant.

So whats the deal about steel that ranges dont allow it.

Ranges usually recycle or reload the spent casings they recover from the range. They don't like to go through picking out the steel casings, so some ban them. Some make up some pretty silly excuses about steel cased ammo being a huge hazard, or setting the range on fire, or some other nonsense. The real story is that they just don't want to pick through the spent casings as much.

Luckily, my local range has no issue with it.

Note I'm talking about steel cases. Some ammo have bullets with actual steel in them (instead of lead). These are banned more often. My local range bans them. They really chew up the backstop. Backstops are usually designed for lead and copper jacketed lead.

[thatguytoo]

CW45 & Tul Ammo

I recently bought a box of .45 ACP from Wally World for $14.97. Went to the range today, and first one in the magazine got stuck while chambering it. It took me about 15 minutes to get the slide far enough back to pull the slide pin out. I noticed that the bevel on the casing where the extractor grabs is really heavy also. I have shot Tul Ammo in my LC9, and my M&P 40 without a problem, my Kahr DOES NOT like it. I ended up giving the whole box to a guy next to me. Would not recommend trying it. Pay a few bucks more for made in USA, Remington worked flawlessly.

[ltxi]

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Ranges usually recycle or reload the spent casings they recover from the range. They don't like to go through picking out the steel casings, so some ban them. Some make up some pretty silly excuses about steel cased ammo being a huge hazard, or setting the range on fire, or some other nonsense. The real story is that they just don't want to pick through the spent casings as much.

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Quite true. My local range guy is at least mostly up front about it. Told him he really just needs to get over it and/or invest in a decent magnet. Also told him the primary reason I shoot Al cased Blazer as my .40 practice ammo is to annoy him. He just threatens to charge me double for range time.

[wyntrout]

WHY buy that stuff to save a dollar or two per box?? Brass is softer and "flows" sealing the chamber while steel doesn't. Steel is tough and unyielding, not what I want in my "precious" personal arms. The steel is usually coated with something to keep it from rusting... lacquer, or recently... some "polymer". Does this stuff build up in the chamber??

The steel cases aren't recyclable, though I've seen some reloaded. the aluminum cases of some Blazer ammo are at least recyclable. Buy American... cheap American brass-cased ammo that you or someone else can reuse. The Federal or WWB100 at Wally World are fine. MFS/Fiocchi are fine, though I've heard of problems with Fiocchi in the P380, I had no problem with MFS... made by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO, as is Herters.

I really look for deals and buy a bunch when my desired price is met, including shipping and no tax. I see no reason to buy steel-cased ammo. The last Wolf ammo I had... .45ACP was bought a decade ago and I thought that I would never get rid of that smoky, foul smelling crap.

Some of that imported stuff does have steel in the bullets and looks like incendiaries with sparks more like white phosphorous when it strikes the concrete floors ... very dangerous for indoors and wooden structures. Outdoors it could be dangerous, too, should it strike rock or stone near combustables.

I use a lot of Sellier and Bellot ammo... all calibers... well, maybe not .40 S&W, yet, when I find bargain prices. I'm always looking for deals, though, and don't wait until I'm low on something or out!

I know that a lot of you have more expenses than I, and are trying to save a buck here and there, but shoot good ammo... preferably made in America... or at least a large reputable manufacturer.

JMHO.

Wynn

[1radman]

Bad experience with squib load! Poor/no quality control...pay the extra $1 or $2 and get USA ammo!

[tv_racin_fan]

The dis info is awesome.

Seriously.