tul ammo

[tv_racin_fan]

Steel aint recyclable? Say what? If someone said it aint reloadable I could let that slide but steel aint recyclable? Come on..

The coating on the cases aint the issue.. it is the fact that the steel does not expand and seal the chamber as well and you get fouling in the chamber that can cause all sorts of issues in a tighter chamber that brass wont (mostly).

Now steel in the projectiles is an issue, tho it is a mild steel... and it aint the issue many think it is. UUMM gee good ole US made ammo has been steel core or bimetal jacket before without issue. That was due to availability of lead and copper.. they hadda make due with what they could. The issue is the backstop that ranges use some of them are very very expensive and they can not afford to have the steel eat em up which it does MUCH faster than lead n copper tho pure copper projectiles might be real real close.

The range we shoot at has water flowing down the face of the backstop for lead abatement.

[wyntrout]

Reloading is recycling, but that used Rooski stuff doesn't amount to much mass for recycling. I'm sure that stuff winds up in the trash.

The first time I saw a notice about not using a certain type of ammo on the range for fear of fires, I saw some yahoos shooting what must have been that stuff on the far left of the range. It's easy to hit the concrete floor when shooting at targets midway to the end of the 15-yard range. Most of these rounds were hitting the floor and they threw sparks like a giant sparkler... quite pyrotechnic... looked like incendiary use of white phosphorous. It was a major deal because every shot was like that. I wish that I had gotten photos because I hadn't seen anything like that outside a fireworks display or incoming rounds in SEA.

Imagine a sparkler that sent sparks in a radius that filled the area between the floor, the ceiling, and the left wall. The guys were obviously enjoying themselves because they were shooting rapid fire and the sparks were unbelievable. I don't know why the shop/range owners didn't stop them.

Oh, the ammo was a "Sport" version of RWS... something like that... not steel-cased ammo.

Wynn

[thatguytoo]

Anyone use Speer Goldot 230gr short barrel ammo?

[tilefish]

Reloading is recycling, but that used Rooski stuff doesn't amount to much mass for recycling. I'm sure that stuff winds up in the trash.

The first time I saw a notice about not using a certain type of ammo on the range for fear of fires, I saw some yahoos shooting what must have been that stuff on the far left of the range. It's easy to hit the concrete floor when shooting at targets midway to the end of the 15-yard range. Most of these rounds were hitting the floor and they threw sparks like a giant sparkler... quite pyrotechnic... looked like incendiary use of white phosphorous. It was a major deal because every shot was like that. I wish that I had gotten photos because I hadn't seen anything like that outside a fireworks display or incoming rounds in SEA.

Imagine a sparkler that sent sparks in a radius that filled the area between the floor, the ceiling, and the left wall. The guys were obviously enjoying themselves because they were shooting rapid fire and the sparks were unbelievable. I don't know why the shop/range owners didn't stop them.

Oh, the ammo was a "Sport" version of RWS... something like that... not steel-cased ammo.

Wynn

Lol, I saw that very same scene once. It was like something out of a Harry Potter movie.

[voodoo54]

Anybody have any experience with it. From what I can find is its from russia. At 15.00 for 50 rounds of .45 is cheap. Its pretty much the only thing that I can find still in stock a wally world. So if no one buys it it must suck right?

There's nothing wrong with tula or any russian ammo. It shoots just fine. It is a lot dirtier than brass ammo, but for plinking who cares? It just makes the second best part of shooting your pistol more fun.

[fitpro]

I've run probably 10,000 rounds of steel-cased Russian ammo through multiple Glocks, Sigs, and AKs and .308 semis. I would say I've encountered malfunctions, none serious, on maybe 5 rounds per thousand...and that may be on the high side. Unless your gun just chokes on it, there is nothing wrong with Russian ammo in general. The only real problem I encountered was with one box of Monarch steel 7.62x39. It wasn't hot enough to cycle the AK and I tossed the box. I won't buy Monarch but Wolf, Tula, Silver and Brown Bear are all good to go.

[Scoundrel]

I was in WM the other day getting some ammo, and a guy behind me specifically asked for that ammo. I've never used it, but according to comments here e must have one of the guns that it runs good in.

Some people prefer it because it's cheap. It's pretty much the only stuff one of my friends buys, because he doesn't make a lot of money. His Glock shoots the stuff just fine, so it works for him. Is it the best thing? Probably not. He's also decided that since Glocks are so marvelous and all, that he doesn't ever need to clean it. He treats it like an AK-47. He also owns one of those, by the way, and shoots steel stuff through it too. It's what he does. Me, I stick with brass casings and copper FMJ mostly. It's what I do.

So that stuff has a time and place. I have some of it myself, stored away for the zombie apocalypse or something. I decided to stock up, it was cheap, and in a SHTF situation I'm not gonna be picky about what ammo is available. I ran a couple of boxes of it through my CM9 with no issues, but I don't practice with it at the range regularly - it's just on standby.

[Scoundrel]

Quite true. My local range guy is at least mostly up front about it. Told him he really just needs to get over it and/or invest in a decent magnet. Also told him the primary reason I shoot Al cased Blazer as my .40 practice ammo is to annoy him. He just threatens to charge me double for range time.

Yeah, my range says the stuff bounces too much and tears up their backdrop which is some sort of high density foam rubber stuff.

[CrabbyAzz]

Just today l ran a few boxes of Tula thru my CM9. No problems, but is a little dirtier than my usual Winchester white box.

[JERRY]

i have what some would call a cheap gun, its a G.I. model Rock Island Armory (RIA) 1911 .45acp. this gun cost me $340.00 brand new 7 years ago and has not once malfunctioned.

about a year ago i tried a box of the steel case Tul Ammo (9mm and .45acp) because it was so cheap and i wanted to see....its a spin off of Wolff which i found to be good in my Ak and SKS.....


the 9mm and .45acp ammo in my RIA and G17 functioned flawlessly and out of several hundred of round ive had one dud round and that was in .45acp. solid and deep primer strike just no bang....

for target practice this ammo works for me, it also seems to be loaded lighter as it kicks less than other brands ive tried.

[PM9OWNER]

I've probably shot around 3,500 tula 9mm rounds with my G34 and Ruger SR9c. I only had maybe 5 that did not go off. Great cheap ammo for plinking or at a well-ventilated range (very dirty). I'm going to shoot brass only out of my PM9. But then again I said that about the glock...

When I do shoot it, I shoot only tula. I have read that since they are steel laquer-coated rounds, you should not shoot tula then brass ammo, because the brass may then get stuck, with any remaining laquer. I believe this is because steal does not expand as much as brass. I have never experienced problems with FTE's.

[Billcurtis]

Anybody have any experience with it. From what I can find is its from russia. At 15.00 for 50 rounds of .45 is cheap. Its pretty much the only thing that I can find still in stock a wally world. So if no one buys it it must suck right?

I have fired over 500 rounds of it through my Kahr CW40 without one failure of any kind. It seems less powerful then Winchester White Box. I have a shooting buddy that shoots it through his Clock also no problem. I would rather shoot brass ammo but Wolf is better then no ammo. I clean my pistol after every practice session and it seems to me no worse the Winchester in the dirty dept. I can detect no wear at all in the chamber or extractor on my pistol.
Bill...

[b4uqzme]

Wally world has been selling TulaBrass in 9mm pretty cheap. 17/50. It runs fine in my CZ75 but I haven't tried it in a Kahr. Probably won't.

[berettabone]

If you have any respect for your firearm, use good brass ammo. Plain and simple.

[SlowBurn]

tul ammo

I've tried it when nothing else was available. Ran fine. I don't save brass so… But the gun did seem dirtier than usual afterwards