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  • Speer Gold Dot 230-grain .45 ACP Tests

    I went to the range last week and haven't been able to organize a post on the results, yet. I wanted to test the CCI/Speer Gold Dots, 230-grain, for use in my .45's. I've been using the Bonded version of Remington's 230-gr Golden Saber Brass-JHP in all of my .45's.

    I plan on using the regular Gold Dots in my 5" S&W 645 and maybe the 4" SA Champion 1911. The Short Barreled version should be better in my 3" PM45. I wasn't thinking about the 5", so forgot about testing it this time.

    Anyhow, I fired the Bonded Golden Sabers, Gold Dots, Gold Dot Short Barrel, and some WWB100's... all 230-grain, standard velocity. I used my camera to take video and then pulled stills to see and compare the blasts and recoil. I don't use a "death grip", so there is more recoil and muzzle rise than you might experience.

    While there is generally less flash, I see a lot of bits of burning powder that you probably wouldn't notice without the freeze-frames. Most of those emit from the barrel, but some seem to fly from, surprisingly, other areas of the pistols... reinforcing the need for eye-protection.

    I'll post this "pre-ramble" before I do something and lose it. It will take a bit of time to arrange and post the pictures. I'm trying to use Flickr and still new at that. Since we had a site software update or I exceeded some posting limit on uploads here, I've been unable to get more than about 10 to 20 % of the supposed 97.7K or so allowed for Jpeg photos. This doesn't allow much detail or legible text, so I'm trying to use Flickr and the 640x480 still images from my video.






    With Flickr, you choose the size of your picture that you want to display, and then copy that location for insertion under advanced editing here. That is, if you choose a "thumbnail", that's what you get!


    Wynn
    Last edited by wyntrout; 06-01-2011, 01:08 PM. Reason: Add photos.
    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

    Thomas Jefferson said

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
    and

    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

  • #2
    I removed all of the photos at Flickr and re-uploaded them, so the pix here disappeared, but I finally got the posts that I wanted. I hope they help anyone interested.

    Wynn
    Last edited by wyntrout; 06-02-2011, 01:59 PM.
    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

    Thomas Jefferson said

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
    and

    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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    • #3
      Excellent writeup and pics, wyntrout. I've been using 230gr. Gold Dots in a variety of pistols and have been pleased with the results.
      MK9 Elite 98 / K40 SS / PM9 / KIMBER ULTRA CDP II
      NRA EPL / Buckeye Firearms Assn.

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      • #4
        Thanks. I have a lot more to do. I'm still thrashing around with the haphazard upload to Flickr and am ready to delete those and upload them kind of organized, rather than all at once. With 4 kinds of ammo and 2 pistols, it was a pain trying to find things and posting them in some order.
        I'm the cook and it's getting close to supper, too!

        Wynn
        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

        Thomas Jefferson said

        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
        and

        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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        • #5
          I also use nothing but Speer Gold Dot 230 grainers in everything I carry which is a 45 which is everything I carry so I guess that about covers it.

          I envy your camera and video prowess. My son did a little of us shooting like yours that one time when I got my PM45. Turned out pretty good. No idea how he or you do it but your good at it.
          http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
          In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
          Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
          Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
          Cue sound of Head slap.

          RIP Muggsy & TMan

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          • #6
            I'm re-uploading everything to Flickr and then I'll have some kind of order to things so I can upload photos here. It's kind of a PITA and my wife thinks I could better spend my time on the house repairs and renovations!

            I use a little mount ~anywhere thing for my camera and just set it on the available ledge to the left in the shooting station... pretty small... but able to shoot the video and then take stills out for photos.

            I'm really learning how to use Flickr... painfully... today. And I'm going to have to start supper soon, dangit!

            Wynn
            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

            Thomas Jefferson said

            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
            and

            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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            • #7
              Supper? Oh, that's what my kids are whining about. I forgot MrsToad had a doctor appointment... Actually, I do virtually all the cooking around here, so I can sympathize.

              Would Photobucket work better for what you're trying to do, wyntrout?
              MK9 Elite 98 / K40 SS / PM9 / KIMBER ULTRA CDP II
              NRA EPL / Buckeye Firearms Assn.

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              • #8
                Well, I got everything organized and re-uploaded to Flickr. I have to start cooking, but you can check out my photos on Flickr. I tried to caption all of them so you can tell what the picture is about.

                I added 7 sets of firing photos, one of ammo and one of magazines, but I haven't uploaded the two guns used, though there are some pix of those on Flickr.

                Try this link:
                http://www.flickr.com/photos/34182547@N04/sets/


                Duty calls... SHMBO... Wifey.

                Wynn

                And, yes, Photobucket might have been easier, but I just went about this wrong.
                USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                Thomas Jefferson said

                “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                and

                "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                • #9
                  Well, let's see how far I can get here with Wifey off to work.

                  First the PM45 firing the Bonded Remington Golden Sabers... LE/Military-type Duty ammo:




                  Note the ejected case is flying back to the right rear somewhat horizontally.


                  Another showing burning bits of powder!
                  USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                  Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                  Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                  Thomas Jefferson said

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                  and

                  "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                  • #10
                    Now the Springfield 1911 4" firing the Bonded Remington Golden Sabers... LE/Military-type Duty ammo:






                    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                    Thomas Jefferson said

                    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                    and

                    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      And now the PM45 firing 230-grain Speer Gold Dots:


                      Low Flash... short barrel... not so much!

                      USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                      Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                      Thomas Jefferson said

                      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                      and

                      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Now the Springfield 1911 4" firing the CCI/Speer 230-gr Gold Dots (bonded JHP):



                        Note the ejected cases go vertical, pretty much, with the Gold Dots.



                        Low flash, not so much, but compare it to the WW100 FMJ's at the beginning of this post... relatively LOW flash. YMMV.
                        Wynn
                        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                        Thomas Jefferson said

                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                        and

                        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          And now the much awaited SHORT-Barrel version of the 230-grain Gold Dots... PM45 first:


                          Lower flash.

                          Cases go vertical!


                          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                          Thomas Jefferson said

                          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                          and

                          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            And the Springfield 1911 4" firing the CCI/Speer 230-gr Short-Barrel version Gold Dots (bonded JHP):



                            Vertically ejected cases!


                            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                            Thomas Jefferson said

                            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                            and

                            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              A few more of the SAC with the short-barreled GD's:


                              USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                              Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                              Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                              Thomas Jefferson said

                              “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                              and

                              "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

                              Comment

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